E85

[Fred 16]

Pump fuel oil, an opinion ?
What as pump?

[ZO6 Bryan]

Originally Posted by Fred 16

Pump fuel oil, an opinion ?
What as pump?

Fuel pump. The BAP increases the voltage to the fuel pump under boost to increase output.

Check out this kit

http://www.lingenfelter.com/mm5/merc...6#.VnFu7vkrLIU

and this one too.

http://www.dedicatedmotorsports.com/...t-p/zl1ffk.htm

[2013 ZL1 #7860]

Originally Posted by Fred 16

Pump fuel oil, an opinion ?
What as pump?

We are talking about the fuel system. Fuel Pump.

You need 30-40% more fuel volume with E85 over 91 octane.
This requires either boosting the factory Fuel pump with a BAP (most likely wont be enough) or upgrading the pump to a dual/triple setup.

[2013 ZL1 #7860]

Originally Posted by ZO6 Bryan

Fuel pump. The BAP increases the voltage to the fuel pump under boost to increase output.

Check out this kit

http://www.lingenfelter.com/mm5/merc...6#.VnFu7vkrLIU

and this one too.

http://www.dedicatedmotorsports.com/...t-p/zl1ffk.htm

Have you seen DSX new CTS-V fuel system?

They just need a ZL1 to finalize the install for us.

Any thoughts?

Information and pics on the DSX facebook page.



Who is ready for a CTS-V pump kit? Iteration One is shown here in the photo! The wiring harness is actually being compacted down to eliminate the relay. The kit is centered around a Bosch 044 fuel pump triggered by a unique DSX Tuning developed controller that uses the MAP sensor signal to trigger the pump around ten pounds of boost. The updated controller will also feature a prime function that will run the pump for a short period on key on to help purge the line with new fuel for users that frequently change between gasoline and ethanol. This also helps to ensure the pump is primed the first time you bury the go pedal! The pump includes a low profile check valve on the outlet as well as a 40 micron pre filter to help protect the pump from any debris.

Easy electrical connections are provided by the harness. Simply unplug your map sensor (the red label one), plug the jumper in, hook up power and ground near the fuse box, and connect the remaining terminals to the pump which mounts to the frame rail underneath the car. A mounting bracket and hardware is included for the pump.

Pre made fuel lines and a specially designed adapter make tying the pump into the factory line an easy ordeal. Just disconnect your factory fuel line where it is between the gas tank and frame, clip the adapter in (it's all push connect), and proceed to install the lines. Fuel is supplied by drilling the tank and installing the supplied 90* pipe thread to AN fitting along with included sealant. There is an optional drill bit and thread tap for $28 if you need it.

Final pricing will be around $1000. We still need to evaluate the labor in producing each kit as well as finalize the total cost per system.

Ready for a 1200whp capable pump solution that isn't $2000+ and keeps the function of your factory FPCM?

Dedicated Motorsports

[Redlineviper]

Originally Posted by 2013 ZL1 #7860

Have you seen DSX new CTS-V fuel system?

They just need a ZL1 to finalize the install for us.

Any thoughts?

Information and pics on the DSX facebook page.



Who is ready for a CTS-V pump kit? Iteration One is shown here in the photo! The wiring harness is actually being compacted down to eliminate the relay. The kit is centered around a Bosch 044 fuel pump triggered by a unique DSX Tuning developed controller that uses the MAP sensor signal to trigger the pump around ten pounds of boost. The updated controller will also feature a prime function that will run the pump for a short period on key on to help purge the line with new fuel for users that frequently change between gasoline and ethanol. This also helps to ensure the pump is primed the first time you bury the go pedal! The pump includes a low profile check valve on the outlet as well as a 40 micron pre filter to help protect the pump from any debris.

Easy electrical connections are provided by the harness. Simply unplug your map sensor (the red label one), plug the jumper in, hook up power and ground near the fuse box, and connect the remaining terminals to the pump which mounts to the frame rail underneath the car. A mounting bracket and hardware is included for the pump.

Pre made fuel lines and a specially designed adapter make tying the pump into the factory line an easy ordeal. Just disconnect your factory fuel line where it is between the gas tank and frame, clip the adapter in (it's all push connect), and proceed to install the lines. Fuel is supplied by drilling the tank and installing the supplied 90* pipe thread to AN fitting along with included sealant. There is an optional drill bit and thread tap for $28 if you need it.

Final pricing will be around $1000. We still need to evaluate the labor in producing each kit as well as finalize the total cost per system.

Ready for a 1200whp capable pump solution that isn't $2000+ and keeps the function of your factory FPCM?

Dedicated Motorsports

Sounds like it could be a slick option? Sounds like you don't need to drop the fuel tank as you are drilling a hole for fuel supply?

[fif_gen_powa]

That pump setup sounds interesting
Really want to run e85 so hoping this us a more cost friendly option

[ZO6 Bryan]

Yes, I have. It allows you to keep the OEM Fuel Pressure Control Module. All the other kits require scrapping it. Then the PCM can't control pressure based on load anymore. Sounds like a really good option for the FPCM equipped cars, i.e. ZL1, ZR1 and CTS-V

Originally Posted by 2013 ZL1 #7860

Have you seen DSX new CTS-V fuel system?

They just need a ZL1 to finalize the install for us.

Any thoughts?

Information and pics on the DSX facebook page.



Who is ready for a CTS-V pump kit? Iteration One is shown here in the photo! The wiring harness is actually being compacted down to eliminate the relay. The kit is centered around a Bosch 044 fuel pump triggered by a unique DSX Tuning developed controller that uses the MAP sensor signal to trigger the pump around ten pounds of boost. The updated controller will also feature a prime function that will run the pump for a short period on key on to help purge the line with new fuel for users that frequently change between gasoline and ethanol. This also helps to ensure the pump is primed the first time you bury the go pedal! The pump includes a low profile check valve on the outlet as well as a 40 micron pre filter to help protect the pump from any debris.

Easy electrical connections are provided by the harness. Simply unplug your map sensor (the red label one), plug the jumper in, hook up power and ground near the fuse box, and connect the remaining terminals to the pump which mounts to the frame rail underneath the car. A mounting bracket and hardware is included for the pump.

Pre made fuel lines and a specially designed adapter make tying the pump into the factory line an easy ordeal. Just disconnect your factory fuel line where it is between the gas tank and frame, clip the adapter in (it's all push connect), and proceed to install the lines. Fuel is supplied by drilling the tank and installing the supplied 90* pipe thread to AN fitting along with included sealant. There is an optional drill bit and thread tap for $28 if you need it.

Final pricing will be around $1000. We still need to evaluate the labor in producing each kit as well as finalize the total cost per system.

Ready for a 1200whp capable pump solution that isn't $2000+ and keeps the function of your factory FPCM?

Dedicated Motorsports

[ZL1Kid_AL]

Curious to what you guys think are the best fuel pump(s) to be used with e85? Walbro, Aeromotive, Fore, etc.
I'm currently looking at a dual pump kit from aeromotive. The kit has twin Aeromotive 340s pumps, rated to 1400 crank HP, e85 safe. Also is a lot cheaper than the popular fore kit

Also is e85 corroding the fuel filter very common? I'd imagine changing out the fuel filter once a year-2years would be good enough

[christophe]

Originally Posted by ZO6 Bryan

..... Sounds like a really good option for the FPCM equipped cars, i.e. ZL1, ZR1 and CTS-V

Not applicable on Z06?

[ZO6 Bryan]

Originally Posted by christophe

Not applicable on Z06?

No, only the supercharged cars with E67 PCM use a FPCM to control pressure under boost. The ZR1 goes to 85 PSI under boost. ZL1 will go to 65 PSI at WOT under boost.

[ZO6 Bryan]

I'm speaking of the C6 ZR1. Not sure how it's done on the brand new C7 Z06.

[Deez-zl1]

If i were to upgrade to id 850 injectors and a fuel filter, reliability should be fine ?