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Old 03-15-2009, 04:37 PM   #15
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Yes. I'd say that if the LNF can hold 20 lbs of boost at 9.5:1, we should be able to do 5-7 at 11.3:1 without issue.

Although, I have to say that my setup will probably be 10:1 at 7 psi.
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we should be able to run more than 7 psi utilizing DI. ive seen 11:1 cr LT1's running 7psi non intercooled (sts) with no problem. I would imagine that we should be able to turn up the boost on this thing.
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Old 03-15-2009, 04:46 PM   #16
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we should be able to run more than 7 psi utilizing DI. ive seen 11:1 cr LT1's running 7psi non intercooled (sts) with no problem. I would imagine that we should be able to turn up the boost on this thing.
Well, then my hypotheses are confirmed, if a bit on the conservative side.

I'm still going to stay on the conservative side with my build up, if only to keep the thing as durable as possible.
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Old 03-15-2009, 05:07 PM   #17
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Well, then my hypotheses are confirmed, if a bit on the conservative side.

I'm still going to stay on the conservative side with my build up, if only to keep the thing as durable as possible.
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start small and keep working your way up. then run it till it blows. and build it better, faster, stronger. we have the technology
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If you all remember that video I linked to a while ago, where Gale Banks was discussing boost; he said every 1 PSI you add without increasing intake temperature, you get 7% more power. SOOO 7 PSI with a good intercooler is 49% more power, lets so 50% for easy number crunching. 50% of 300 is 150. So 150 + 300 = 450. Thats a nice bump in power if you ask me Not to mention only 5 pounds of boost is 35% more power or about another 100 HP, so your looking at around 400 HP with just a little bit of boost, not to mention exhaust mods, intake, tuning, head work etc.
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If you all remember that video I linked to a while ago, where Gale Banks was discussing boost; he said every 1 PSI you add without increasing intake temperature, you get 7% more power. SOOO 7 PSI with a good intercooler is 49% more power, lets so 50% for easy number crunching. 50% of 300 is 150. So 150 + 300 = 450. Thats a nice bump in power if you ask me Not to mention only 5 pounds of boost is 35% more power or about another 100 HP, so your looking at around 400 HP with just a little bit of boost, not to mention exhaust mods, intake, tuning, head work etc.
IF you can do it without increasing intake temps.


methanol injection anyone? http://www.snowperformance.net/
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IF you can do it without increasing intake temps.

well that's why you get an intercooler with it. A simple air to air unit should be sufficient if your only make 5-8 pounds of boost. the cobalt is capable of making more than double that and it has a air/air cooler.
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we should be able to run more than 7 psi utilizing DI. ive seen 11:1 cr LT1's running 7psi non intercooled (sts) with no problem. I would imagine that we should be able to turn up the boost on this thing.
the thing about the STS setups is the fact that the rear-mount setup allows the long turbo piping to act as an intercooler (at low boost levels). that's how they explained it in a product video. when running higher boost pressure, that's when they recommend adding a separate intercooler.
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IF you can do it without increasing intake temps.


methanol injection anyone? http://www.snowperformance.net/
You're all over that methanol injection aren't you?
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well that's why you get an intercooler with it. A simple air to air unit should be sufficient if your only make 5-8 pounds of boost. the cobalt is capable of making more than double that and it has a air/air cooler.
yup, just a little bit of trimming to be done to get one stuffed in there

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the thing about the STS setups is the fact that the rear-mount setup allows the long turbo piping to act as an intercooler (at low boost levels). that's how they explained it in a product video. when running higher boost pressure, that's when they recommend adding a separate intercooler.
yes. I know. but 5-7psi is about the norm for all low-boost/non-intercooled setups.

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You're all over that methanol injection aren't you?
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hell yeah I am. when you can cruise at 160*, then punch it, go to full boost and the temp drop to 130*. not to mention, not having to finegle an intercooler into the engine bay as well. with the LLT intake manifold, it would be super easy to drill and tap a hole for a nozzle for meth injection. or you could go the route I am on my LT1 and run individual nozzles on each port.
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go for it, sounds good to me! Not having to stuff an intercooler some where is enough of an incentive. These newer cars have 10 pounds of crap stuffed into a 5 pound bag.
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Heh. I'll look into it, spike. God knows I could use the space savings.

And that's the best you'll get out of me for now.
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Heh. I'll look into it, spike. God knows I could use the space savings.

And that's the best you'll get out of me for now.
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I've already told you what to do with your LLT....
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O word! we got build secrets already hehehe
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ok cool

can we go off topic for a minute?


i don't wanna start another thread about this...

so lets revive a debate..... i am thinking of getting a Turbo or a Super charger


What is your guys opinion ....i want off the line power and i dont want any loss in mpg's


I am fairly new to FI so idk much about it
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