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Z Madness · 10-19-2010, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by unrestrictedmotorsports

Dont get me wrong you might be able to do it but with what we were trying to do and not drill a hole into the oil pan we couldnt find anything. I had a little concern with dumping all the oil back into the drivers side. You cant drill into the valve cover due to the material that it is.

After SEMA we are going to tap into the oil pan and return the oil into the pan instead of the valves.

I think I'm going to just tap in to the oil pan. Not sure if we will get to this before SEMA but if I do, I'll bring pictures for you.

Z Madness · 10-19-2010, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CAMAR0

Im not 100% up to speed on the issue..

Could you front mount an oil cooler and just have a separate oiling system for the turbo. You could put an oil pressure / temp sensors on the outlet side of the sts pump.

I like your thinking. The issue is the high pressure in the block due to the higher boost and having the oil forced out of the pcv hose. More of a design issue I think. STS uses a very simple system that returns the oil by using a modified oil fill cap. For the 5 psi. Of boost, doesn't seem to be an issue, but running 7+ we are discovering issues like this. A solution may be a separate oiling system, not sure. I think I'm going to try tapping in to the oil pan as it will help to get oil to pan more efficiently.

xtreme industries · 10-19-2010, 11:06 AM

would you be able to take pictures of the set up now just so i can visually see what you guys are refering to. i plan on doing this set up but i want higher boost like you and all the information i can get, the better i will be. what if you ran a catch can and have the catch can drain into the pan?

ihaveacamaro · 10-21-2010, 11:20 PM

this is off topic, but what rims does the OP have in the video?

http://www.youtube.com/user/ZMadness.../1/ygj52MHjJmE

Z Madness · 10-22-2010, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by iwantacamaro

this is off topic, but what rims does the OP have in the video?

http://www.youtube.com/user/ZMadness.../1/ygj52MHjJmE

those were the factory 21" wheel option. They are 4 sale if you like. less than 1500 miles. i have Forgelines now.

LosingReality · 10-22-2010, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Z Madness

Not really more hp per psi but the more psi resulted in more hp. The estimate should be well into 400 territory. This is what I was shooting for from the system.

What was your rear wheel HP with the 5 psi? I dont remember what you said....Too lazy to search lol

Edge.128 · 10-22-2010, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Z Madness

About 350 rwhp at just under 5 psi. Scheduling a new dyno run to see how the meth injection and higher boost helps.

this is from a few pages back. not sure if it is still at that level or not.

jim505 · 10-22-2010, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Edge.128

this is from a few pages back. not sure if it is still at that level or not.

That sounds right... thats what I'm getting at 5psi.

Jim

Edge.128 · 10-22-2010, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jim505

That sounds right... thats what I'm getting at 5psi.

Jim

2011CamaroV6newbee · 10-22-2010, 11:37 AM

I know every one would like to get more boost, but with 350 hp at the wheels with 5lbs, How much more can you go before you blow/replace the transmission. If I remember correctly it was 340ish with a 5000lbs car, so were does that leave our 3600lbs Camaros.

GretchenGotGrowl · 10-22-2010, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 2011CamaroV6newbee

I know every one would like to get more boost, but with 350 hp at the wheels with 5lbs, How much more can you go before you blow/replace the transmission. If I remember correctly it was 340ish with a 5000lbs car, so were does that leave our 3600lbs Camaros.

We would need to either see the dyno data or know the RPMs at the peak HP. Let's say he's getting 350 HP at 6000 RPM. If he loses 18% power through the drivetrain, he's making 426 HP at the crank (sound familiar). That means about 372 TQ. Remember, this is at 6000 RPM so he is probably safe for three reasons:

1) Once going, the tranny can take more torque as long as you don't dump it on all at one time.

2) He's probably making less torque at lower engine speeds

3) The tranny was rated for a 5000 lb car, we are about 3/4 that weight.

scrming · 10-22-2010, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 2011CamaroV6newbee

I know every one would like to get more boost, but with 350 hp at the wheels with 5lbs, How much more can you go before you blow/replace the transmission. If I remember correctly it was 340ish with a 5000lbs car, so were does that leave our 3600lbs Camaros.

Crank it up to you break it and then back it down a notch... LOL

GretchenGotGrowl · 10-22-2010, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by scrming

Crank it up to you break it and then back it down a notch... LOL

That's what my brother's doing with his WRX right now. Unfortunately, everytime he screws something up on that car he comes and borrows my truck!

Venom40k · 10-23-2010, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

That's what my brother's doing with his WRX right now. Unfortunately, everytime he screws something up on that car he comes and borrows my truck!

Damn WRX guys

(bucket loads of repect for that car btw)

Anyways, Z what sized forgelines did you get?

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10-19-2010, 11:06 AM	#479
xtreme industries Drives: 2010 Camaro 2lt RS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Calgary, AB, Canada Posts: 548	would you be able to take pictures of the set up now just so i can visually see what you guys are refering to. i plan on doing this set up but i want higher boost like you and all the information i can get, the better i will be. what if you ran a catch can and have the catch can drain into the pan?

10-21-2010, 11:20 PM	#480
ihaveacamaro I like teeth. Drives: #198 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, Florida Posts: 4,817	this is off topic, but what rims does the OP have in the video? http://www.youtube.com/user/ZMadness.../1/ygj52MHjJmE

10-22-2010, 11:37 AM	#486
2011CamaroV6newbee Drives: 2011 V6 lt2 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Columbus GA Posts: 47	I know every one would like to get more boost, but with 350 hp at the wheels with 5lbs, How much more can you go before you blow/replace the transmission. If I remember correctly it was 340ish with a 5000lbs car, so were does that leave our 3600lbs Camaros.