z/28 vs zl1 vs 1le suspension components - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

thekid13 · 07-12-2014, 03:29 PM

If there is another post like this, sorry in advance. From the z/28 to the zl1 and 1le, what if any are the difference in the suspension components? I know all you magnetorheological dampers with metal shavings and gas filled shocks. Besides specs and specific settings, are the components exactly the same. What is the difference in the shocks, struts, springs, stabilizing bars, shock mounts and toe links. I ask because I am on the verge of purchasing 1le track pack 23123398 for the v6. Also had a question, what is the difference between v6 and v8 version. Thank You

--TheKid13

JusticePete · 07-12-2014, 03:41 PM

No they are not the same.

Are you asking as general information or with an eye on upgrades?

thekid13 · 07-13-2014, 02:05 AM

no upgrade from fe2 suspension to 1le track pack

KaBoom1701 · 07-13-2014, 10:02 AM

I'll be doing this V6 1LE upgrade in a few weeks....

JusticePete · 07-13-2014, 11:13 AM

Unless you are running 1LE wheels and tires (square), do NOT install the 1LE front bar. Use your OEM front bar. This will make your staggered wheel and tire setup more balanced. That detail aside, you will be amazed at the difference.

One part you should try to get from the Z/28 is the rear upper control arm outer rubber bushing. It is currently the best available part.

thekid13 · 07-14-2014, 06:13 PM

then consider me a follower. i can't wait to see how it goes. good luck!

--TheKid13

thekid13 · 07-14-2014, 06:14 PM

yeah i was also looking into getting 1le wheels, 20x9 front, 20x10 rear. will i be ok if i run 275's front, 295's rear, because thats what i have currently

JusticePete · 07-14-2014, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by thekid13

yeah i was also looking into getting 1le wheels, 20x9 front, 20x10 rear. will i be ok if i run 275's front, 295's rear, because thats what i have currently

275/295 will work with the SS Front and 1LE Rear Bars
The same bars will work better with the ILE wheels and Tires
They will work best with my 305/30/19s on 19x11 Forgelines

Dropspeed · 07-21-2014, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by thekid13

yeah i was also looking into getting 1le wheels, 20x9 front, 20x10 rear. will i be ok if i run 275's front, 295's rear, because thats what i have currently

Real 1LE wheels are 20 x 10, 20 x 11.....only the replicas come in smaller width.

Anaconda · 07-21-2014, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JusticePete

275/295 will work with the SS Front and 1LE Rear Bars
The same bars will work better with the ILE wheels and Tires
They will work best with my 305/30/19s on 19x11 Forgelines

I'm also on the verge of purchasing the 1LE track pack as well here in the next couple of weeks. I was curious about the sway bars and have also heard not to install the front 1LE sway bar if I have a staggered wheel set up. Mine is a 2013 SS. The wheels I have right now are:

Forgestar F14's

20x9.5 front
20x11 rear

Tires: Michelin Pilot Super Sports 285/35 all around

In the future after the rears are worn/gone which may be in a couple of years, I was thinking of jumping to 295/35 in the rear and keeping fronts 285/35, which will make the set up a little more staggered. So again, do NOT install the front 1LE sway even in my current set up? I was also hearing you can go with ZL1 bars, but didn't know if it was really worth it. I'm stuck on the GM 1LE track pack.

Thank you.

JusticePete · 07-21-2014, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Anaconda

I'm also on the verge of purchasing the 1LE track pack as well here in the next couple of weeks. I was curious about the sway bars and have also heard not to install the front 1LE sway bar if I have a staggered wheel set up. Mine is a 2013 SS. The wheels I have right now are:

Forgestar F14's

20x9.5 front
20x11 rear

Tires: Michelin Pilot Super Sports 285/35 all around

In the future after the rears are worn/gone which may be in a couple of years, I was thinking of jumping to 295/35 in the rear and keeping fronts 285/35, which will make the set up a little more staggered. So again, do NOT install the front 1LE sway even in my current set up? I was also hearing you can go with ZL1 bars, but didn't know if it was really worth it. I'm stuck on the GM 1LE track pack.

Thank you.

If I owned a 1LE, I would take off the 27mm front bar and replace it with a SS tiny little front bar. I would do it even sooner on a ZL1 staggered setup.

So Cal Camaro · 07-21-2014, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JusticePete

If I owned a 1LE, I would take off the 27mm front bar and replace it with a SS tiny little front bar. I would do it even sooner on a ZL1 staggered setup.

Now why would I want to take off that Red front bar someone sold me with the big red bar in back....I could use camber plates if any of those turn up...

Dropspeed · 07-21-2014, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by So Cal Camaro

Now why would I want to take off that Red front bar someone sold me with the big red bar in back....I could use camber plates if any of those turn up...

I know that was a sarcastic question. But in reality it may handle better

.

JusticePete · 07-21-2014, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by So Cal Camaro

Now why would I want to take off that Red front bar someone sold me with the big red bar in back....I could use camber plates if any of those turn up...

OE 27mm front and 28mm rear 1mm difference
That other company I know well 27 front and 32 rear 5mm difference

Spring rate, tire sidewall, unsprung weight and other factor determine the ideal sway bar setup. I can tell you that I am still getting calls from the fastest 5th Gens looking for the 27/32.

At the AC a tiney factory front may work better, but on a high speed track driven at 10/10ths it would be very loose. Very.

07-12-2014, 03:29 PM	#1
thekid13 Christian Martinez Drives: 2012 1LT RS Victory Red Camaro Join Date: May 2013 Location: San Fernando Valley Posts: 95 View My Garage	z/28 vs zl1 vs 1le suspension components If there is another post like this, sorry in advance. From the z/28 to the zl1 and 1le, what if any are the difference in the suspension components? I know all you magnetorheological dampers with metal shavings and gas filled shocks. Besides specs and specific settings, are the components exactly the same. What is the difference in the shocks, struts, springs, stabilizing bars, shock mounts and toe links. I ask because I am on the verge of purchasing 1le track pack 23123398 for the v6. Also had a question, what is the difference between v6 and v8 version. Thank You --TheKid13

07-13-2014, 10:02 AM	#4
KaBoom1701 KaBoom1701 Drives: 13' ZL1 Red M6 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: I.E. SoCal (Yucaipa) Posts: 8,630	I'll be doing this V6 1LE upgrade in a few weeks.... __________________ Mods: Roto-Fab Intake, WW Res. kit & Big Gulp Air Scoop, Elite Catch Can, ATI Super Damper & 18% OD Pulley, LF Idler pulley bracket, Metco CC breather, ID850 Injectors, Stainless Power Headers w/ ceramic coating, TR71X Spark Plugs, JMS Fuel Pump Booster, Bo White TB, Tuned by Ted @ Jannetty Racing, Ron Davis HX, D3 Reservoir, Pfadt 1" Springs, Moreno Camber Plates, ZL1 Addons Splitter guard washers, Tow Hook kit & rock guards, Hurst Shifter Billet Plus 6 Speed Short Shifter, ZL1 DRL lighting harness, ZL1 Recaro Seats.

07-12-2014, 03:41 PM	#2
JusticePete Drives: Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 20,174	No they are not the same. Are you asking as general information or with an eye on upgrades?

07-13-2014, 02:05 AM	#3
thekid13 Christian Martinez Drives: 2012 1LT RS Victory Red Camaro Join Date: May 2013 Location: San Fernando Valley Posts: 95 View My Garage	no upgrade from fe2 suspension to 1le track pack

07-13-2014, 11:13 AM	#5
JusticePete Drives: Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 20,174	Unless you are running 1LE wheels and tires (square), do NOT install the 1LE front bar. Use your OEM front bar. This will make your staggered wheel and tire setup more balanced. That detail aside, you will be amazed at the difference. One part you should try to get from the Z/28 is the rear upper control arm outer rubber bushing. It is currently the best available part.

07-14-2014, 06:13 PM	#6
thekid13 Christian Martinez Drives: 2012 1LT RS Victory Red Camaro Join Date: May 2013 Location: San Fernando Valley Posts: 95 View My Garage	then consider me a follower. i can't wait to see how it goes. good luck! --TheKid13

07-14-2014, 06:14 PM	#7
thekid13 Christian Martinez Drives: 2012 1LT RS Victory Red Camaro Join Date: May 2013 Location: San Fernando Valley Posts: 95 View My Garage	yeah i was also looking into getting 1le wheels, 20x9 front, 20x10 rear. will i be ok if i run 275's front, 295's rear, because thats what i have currently