Dyno run. Thoughts?

[1KillerSS]

Originally Posted by revo1059

Well this sucks.......

Thats just my opinion, it isnt gospel. Ive got a 40 AMP ECS BAP I can ship today. But serioulsy, I do have one for sale.

[1KillerSS]

I was referring to stock as in factory state. With no mods, comparing that number to other stock numbers can give you a decent reference.

[revo1059]

Ahh, no I do not have a completely stock run, nor do I have the stock tune file.

[1KillerSS]

Not sure if you are aware but if you ever need to have it, getting your stock file is not hard. Any file from a ZL1 with your year and transmission will work. I'm not very educated on the options that come with the ZL1's but as long as the options and year are the same, the file can be uploaded, providing you license it. HPTuners has a tune repository and you can find one in there. Thats just one way.


Ted is dead on, the MSD BAP is nice, but, my experience is the same, if the car sits for a long time, I have a dead battery. However when I park my car for extended periods I always use a trickle charger anyway so its never an issue for me.

[revo1059]

if the car sits for a long time, I have a dead battery.

What about running the power from an ignition source vs. a constant source, or if it has to come off the battery, using a relay controlled by an ignition source?

[1KillerSS]

Originally Posted by revo1059

What about running the power from an ignition source vs. a constant source, or if it has to come off the battery, using a relay controlled by an ignition source?

Sorry I dont know the answer to that question. Ted can most likely answer that. The MSD's instructions have you wire the power and ground to the battery directly. The ECS BAP does not need a separate power supply. So no battery drain.

[AGP Turbo]

The MSD instructions have you wiring it assuming your fuel pump power wire is switched. In the camaro5 it's a constant power to the FPCM. When we sell an MSD we include instructions and extra parts that have it switching properly. No battery drain.

[ZO6 Bryan]

Originally Posted by revo1059

Cam specs are 13017R/3656R HR120+5. I also have 85 lb injectors in (they were in for the dyno last year too.

I thought the stock fuel setup could handle this without the BAP help. I'm guessing that the BAP should cure this issue?

Is it safe to run as is until I get the BAP put in?

Run it? Yes. But I wouldn't race it. The PCM will increase injector pulse width to compensate for the low fuel pressure to an extent. But you risking running lean and detonate the engine. Then you may be buying pistons, and a lot more.

[ZO6 Bryan]

Originally Posted by 1KillerSS

Not sure if you are aware but if you ever need to have it, getting your stock file is not hard. Any file from a ZL1 with your year and transmission will work. I'm not very educated on the options that come with the ZL1's but as long as the options and year are the same, the file can be uploaded, providing you license it. HPTuners has a tune repository and you can find one in there. Thats just one way.


Ted is dead on, the MSD BAP is nice, but, my experience is the same, if the car sits for a long time, I have a dead battery. However when I park my car for extended periods I always use a trickle charger anyway so its never an issue for me.

Almost! You original tune file is internally stamped with your VIN number. Put another tune in and there may be issues with the mismatch. Remember there are multiple electronic modules(computers) in the car that all talk to each other. An unrecognized VIN in one will trigger codes when it tries to communicate with the others.

[ZO6 Bryan]

Originally Posted by 1KillerSS

Sorry I dont know the answer to that question. Ted can most likely answer that. The MSD's instructions have you wire the power and ground to the battery directly. The ECS BAP does not need a separate power supply. So no battery drain.

I found the Kenne Bell BAP doesn't have any of those problems. And you run a wire the length of the car to trigger it instead of a vacuum line that might have a chance to get pinched or leak in the MSD.

I used the Lingenfelter kit specifically for the camaro that comes with everything you need. Otherwise you would have to source a lot of the required hardware and wiring yourself.
http://www.lingenfelter.com/mm5/merc...E#.Vbg8rvlViko

[1KillerSS]

Originally Posted by ZO6 Bryan

Almost! You original tune file is internally stamped with your VIN number. Put another tune in and there may be issues with the mismatch. Remember there are multiple electronic modules(computers) in the car that all talk to each other. An unrecognized VIN in one will trigger codes when it tries to communicate with the others.

I am sorry for not making my self clear, I was assuming that the he or the tuner would cut and past those values. Still I had not considered what you have just said. Good to know, thank you.

Originally Posted by ZO6 Bryan

I found the Kenne Bell BAP doesn't have any of those problems. And you run a wire the length of the car to trigger it instead of a vacuum line that might have a chance to get pinched or leak in the MSD.

I used the Lingenfelter kit specifically for the camaro that comes with everything you need. Otherwise you would have to source a lot of the required hardware and wiring yourself.
http://www.lingenfelter.com/mm5/merc...E#.Vbg8rvlViko

What are the differences between the Kenne Bell and ECS's rebadged Vortech unit? I was under the impression they both ran off a hobbs switch and were wired the same way.

[ZO6 Bryan]

Kenne Bell has the adjustment knob to control the level of voltage boost. It looks like the ECS doesn't.

[1KillerSS]

Ok gotcha, no the ECS does not.

Thanks Bryan