01-18-2008, 12:39 PM | #1 |
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Slightly embarrasing question on a car forum...
Okay first of, I think I've mentioned that I haven't really gotten intrested in cars as something other then transportation until last summer. So be patient with me on this.
How do you do a burnout in a car with manual transmission? I assume that in an automatic you push the accelerator while holding the brake pedal, but who do you do that in a manual? I have a suspicion that it might be to hold the e-brake, but haven't been able to try it on my Saab since the e-brake is nearly useless. This is all of course assuming I'm correct in my assumptions... Why I'm asking this is because I'd like to be able to do burnouts in the Camaro and I want manual. I'm not saying I won't get manual if it's impossible to do burnouts in a manual but still I'm curious. Thanks for being patient with this noob
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01-18-2008, 12:42 PM | #2 |
Hey, I'll admit it, I don't know how to do it either. I've never owned a car that was worth doing burnouts with. I've always wondered how to do them, but never really wanted to ask. You're not alone Emher!
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01-18-2008, 12:48 PM | #3 |
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The following is all assuming you're speaking about RWD.
It's the same in a manual as it is in an Auto...basically: Power, and braking the front end. You're sitting there with the clutch and brake in, so let out of the clutch, and punch the gas. all the while maintaining brake pressure. It's all in the timing, and if you've got enough oomph going to the wheels quick enough to pull it off. The E-brake won't help. Remember, you're trying to spin the rear wheels, not stop them. So since all that power is being thrown through the rear, the normal brakes won't do crap, so you press on them anyways to keep the front wheels seated while you're making pretty stripes. If you've got the power, and you want to burnout as you're pulling away, you forget the brakes and just hammer it. This is how I was told to do it. |
01-18-2008, 01:12 PM | #4 |
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It's simple, really. In an auto, you just hold the brake and hit the gas...burnout...voila..
In a manual, you are holding the brake and the clutch. Put it in gear. Release the brake. Put foot on gas pedal. Let out clutch much faster than normal while pressing gas to floor at the same time. Rear wheels will lose traction and that foot you had on the clutch??...it now goes on the brake to hold the car in the same spot. I would do this all the time at the track. It's really rather simple to do. SLP and a few other places offer line locks (for the brakes). That way, you can release the brake after hitting a button and the front brakes will stay engaged so you can do a burnout w/out moving an inch. Doing it my way will launch you a foot or so...maybe. |
01-18-2008, 01:29 PM | #5 | |
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How does that work with traction control though? I've heard some people say they hope the Camaro comes with that. |
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01-18-2008, 01:40 PM | #6 |
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ASR...or traction control. There's a button on the dash that turns it on and off. Everytime you start the car, it is automatically on. Just hit the button....*off*.
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01-18-2008, 01:42 PM | #7 |
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Okay, then I understand the principle of it better. But what you're saying is that it's easier in RWD or is it inpossible in a FWD? I'd like to try and learn this stuff on the current Saab beater and not try and kill the Camaro if I mess up trying it out then. I actually something similar to this earlier tonight but I think I messed up because of timing of shifting my feet really. I had a real problem learning to drive manual but now it goes by it self, so hopefully this will be as easy with training.
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01-18-2008, 02:16 PM | #8 |
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actually, its alot easier to do in a FWD car because you can simply apply the e-brake and then put the car in gear and either 1) do a clutch dump and break the front wheels loose or 2) add power to the auto front wheels until they break loose.
I highly recommend a line lock if you have a manual or auto rear wheel drive car... because pressing the brake pedal while doing a burnout is going to heat up your rear rotors and there is a high possibility of brake and rear end bearing damage... all that heat has to go somewhere, and the rotors and bearings in the rear end are the place where all that heat goes. in the new Camaro, I'm sure that the car will come with traction control, but over riding it shouldn't be too difficult, and then adding a line lock would just lock the front wheels and make for some good ole fashioned smokey burnouts
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01-18-2008, 02:53 PM | #9 |
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With a manual, put your foot to the floor until the valves start to float or you start bouncing the motor off the rev limiter, then sidestep the clutch, when you start bouncing off the rev limiter again in 1st, grab the shifter and slam into 2nd w/out lifting off the gas, repeat for all gears until you run out of road, hit something or run off the road.
If TAG or one his friends in law enforcement see you doing this before you've run out of road, pull over, be respectful, and as they yank you out of the car and tase you, calmly explain that your throttle was stuck or that the doctor just put you on new meds. You might want to retain the services of a lawyer before you attempt this. Good luck. |
01-18-2008, 02:55 PM | #10 |
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I'm thinking a line lock may be the way to go really. As it is now I came to the conclusion that trying to do a burnout in the Saab is a lost cause. It just doesn't have the power any more. I tried it a bit when I was going to pick up my brother from his swimming training and I got the timing down okay, but quickly came to the conclusion that the engine is just to tired after being honestly mismanaged by a crappy service shop for years. As it is now you only really get power and acceleration when the turbo kicks in and it just doesn't do that when you go from a standstill to full throttle, but rather only in higher gears after giving some power for half a second or so. So I'll have to try it carefully in the Camaro when I get it. The Saab will remain as beater for as long as it works with not much repair.
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01-18-2008, 03:55 PM | #11 |
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I have a suggestion. Before I say it, please only try it on a beater because it may be a little abrasive on the tranny. My buddy does it in his mazda beater truck a 2200 4 cyn and rear wheel drive. He starts by putting it in reverse to get the truck goin a little and then throws into first gear and gives it gas. It spins pretty good. Feel free to try it at your own discresion.
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01-18-2008, 10:18 PM | #12 | |
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Wow...you gotta let us know how much longer he has that car for...that's transmission suicide! |
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01-19-2008, 01:35 AM | #13 | |
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01-19-2008, 02:33 AM | #14 |
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Its not an Audi, so unintended acceleration may not be the best defense.
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