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Old 10-08-2012, 02:49 PM   #43
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what crime did they commit? reckless driving?

I'm not on their side! I think they should be fired in a heart beat but recording without their consent and posting it on here is likely one of the reasons this is gone
That's no reason for it to be gone...the forum is corpor....er...privately owned, and posts and comments are in no way a reflection of the owners' personal views. In a lawsuit of any kind, they would be in no way accountable for the postings of their members.
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Old 10-08-2012, 02:49 PM   #44
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I expect we will not get a clear answer...because I expect Cam5 is, indeed, in bed with GM.

Someone said that a positive of that is the forum gives you a voice GM would have otherwise not heard. Well, not if that voice is quickly silenced.

The member who posted up the original thread had a legitimate issue with a GM dealer. The ONLY reason Cam5 mods would close said thread would be their contractual obligation to silence any negative postings and/or comments about GM as quickly and efficiently as possible.

If this were not the case, why not let people post? With the national attention this is getting, it could catapult the site into the national spotlight with news media potentially quoting members of the forum in support of the member in question. But NO. Rather than do the right thing, the mods have decided to brush this member's issues under the rug and turn the other cheek.

It's sickening to say the least because we are still expected to support this site, but the site refuses to do the same for us.

I've been saying for a long time that the censorship here is running absolutely rampant, but this is, by far, the biggest act of I've seen since I've been on here.

Either bring back the original, legitimate thread, and get off GM's nuts, or put a disclaimer up saying "Welcome to Camaro5....sponsored by GM. No negative comments/threads about GM or GM dealerships will be tolerated."

I'm disappointed..and more than a little .

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Old 10-08-2012, 02:49 PM   #45
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I'm waiting now that this has been moved to feedback... ten bucks says the admin will 'answer' your question, then lock this thread.

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Old 10-08-2012, 02:50 PM   #46
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I'm waiting now that this has been moved to feedback... ten bucks says the admin will 'answer' your question, then lock this thread.

I'll take that bet and triple it....as I believe you are 100% correct.
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Old 10-08-2012, 02:54 PM   #47
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according to SC law only 1 parties consent is needed if it is not an electronic (telephone) conversation..

so in this case the victim did nothing wrong with respect to recording without consent. .

and if you listened to the whole thing, they committed several crimes, reckless driving the least of it. They were conspiring to commit fraud, charge the customer for the clutch install, then turn around and bill GM for the pressure plate install so the tech gets paid twice for the same job..


Everyone b*tches and moans about the cost of dealer repairs, the cost of extended warranties, the cost of blah blah blah..

Well Fraud like this is a prime example of why those things cost so damn much..
Police record all the time without consent. If you go in a Bank , store or a gas station you are being recorded without consent. This is not a legal issue! This is a Sencorship Issue!
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Old 10-08-2012, 02:55 PM   #48
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I'm just waiting to find out what the outcome is going to be on this. I hope the OP gets back what is due to him from this BS!!! P!ssed me off and it's not even my car. I would have blown a gasket if it were me though, and I think he is doing a good job getting this out into the public.

Now to wait and see what happens!
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Old 10-08-2012, 02:57 PM   #49
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I'll take that bet and triple it....as I believe you are 100% correct.
and we might all get the threatning PM's from C5 Judge and Jury.
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Old 10-08-2012, 02:59 PM   #50
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Police record all the time without consent. If you go in a Bank , store or a gas station you are being recorded without consent. This is not a legal issue! This is a Sencorship Issue!

the word you are looking for is Censorship..

and it is not a Censorship issue.. privately owned and operated forum/blog; Censorship laws do not apply..
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The Camaro Abused thread maybe closed on C5, but it's on dozens of other forums.
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Old 10-08-2012, 03:02 PM   #52
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Since I don't work for GM, or get paid to work on this site. I (or the rest of the moderation team that have real jobs to attend to) will get to your complaints as soon as I (we) can.

There are days that I just love being a volunteer...
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Old 10-08-2012, 03:02 PM   #53
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The Camaro Abused thread maybe closed on C5, but it's on dozens of other forums.

Yeah I saw that!!
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Since I don't work for GM, or get paid to work on this site. I (or the rest of the moderation team that have real jobs to attend to) will get to your complaints as soon as I (we) can.

There are days that I just love being a volunteer...
Haha at one point I wanted to be a mod on this site, but with everything y'all have to put up with-- yeah, there's NO way. Many of y'all do a lot of good, though, and plenty of us love you I don't think anyone's trying to say mods get paid or blame you for this. I think a lot of people are curious to hear from Tran. I know I am.

I hope they aren't coming at you.
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Old 10-08-2012, 03:04 PM   #55
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I'm waiting now that this has been moved to feedback... ten bucks says the admin will 'answer' your question, then lock this thread.

I hope this thread stay open even if the orginal question gets answered. Everone be NICE not to offend anyone.

This thread is more about accountability. Can I come on here as a sponsor and sell caned air and claim that it converts a 1LT into a 2SS and have all threads disputing my claims be closed as not to have anyone figure me out.

If so Im not upset that in two years of owning my Camaro it have not tranformed one single time as in (whats that movie).

I dont believed the tape was altered so whats the problem with notifing others in bad practice.
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Old 10-08-2012, 03:05 PM   #56
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Since I don't work for GM, or get paid to work on this site. I (or the rest of the moderation team that have real jobs to attend to) will get to your complaints as soon as I (we) can.

There are days that I just love being a volunteer...

Wow ! Are you saying we do not have real Jobs?????
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