RIP 2012 ZL1 #1635

[mlee]

My car has been at the dealership for a full month now...

I'm starting to get worried...

[PQ]

Originally Posted by mlee

My car has been at the dealership for a full month now...

I'm starting to get worried...

Those bastards. They should put Z28 wheels on your car for your troubles.

[TannerJPowell]

Originally Posted by mlee

My car has been at the dealership for a full month now...

I'm starting to get worried...

For serious?

All OK?

[PQ]

And for the record I am not slamming the OPs particular incidence here. I'm with the OP 100% here as far as getting screwed by this dealer. I am merely slamming most of your idea that the dealer is legally obligated to give someone more than the value of the car. I hope he get's a new car. I think that would be MORE than fair and a good outcome. But they don't OWE him a new car. And I doubt that the OP thinks they do. (not possitive)

Should they give more than the value? Absolutely. Case by case of course but it's a decision that they get to make.

But should they be liable to? Hell no. Their liability goes to the value.

[Barry2424]

Originally Posted by Bad@ssCamaro

You must have missed a few posts that stated GM is aware of the situation and I'm sure they are doing what they can to help resolve this situation. See post #933.

I did miss #933. Sorry that I spoke out of turn. I just know in my heart I would be sick if it happened to me or to any of my classic cars. Even having collector car insurance, the way the market dove in 08 and bounced a little, the insurance company will find a way to low ball you. You can never get your dream car back. Just a bad memory. I'll wait to see how this all plays out to decide.

[David O]

Originally Posted by Est.July.4.1776

Can't shake employment forever...

Will not have too. Transfer any ownership of real property to someone you trust, wait 2 years file bankruptcy's. They wouldn't collect a penny, EVER! Get job, transfer real property back. It's done thousands of times a year across this country.

[Barry2424]

Originally Posted by BlemsBumble

Over this? You can't be serious.

You are right, temporally out of my mind. Love the Torch Red with a black top.

[mlee]

Originally Posted by TannerJPowell

For serious?

All OK?

Originally Posted by PQ

Those bastards. They should put Z28 wheels on your car for your troubles.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...336016:frusty:

[PrinzII]

Pfadt Racing: My hat's off to you guys for your gesture. When I get mine, you and JDP will be the people I contact.

Jhoop: Your story is similar to a story from a friend of mine. He took his Maxima to a dealership for something simple several years ago and they dropped the car from the lift. They took him through a TON of changes but the end result was that he was never really made whole. The car had a ton of problems after that which neither Nissan nor the dealership remedied.

In this case, I sincerely hope you are made 100% whole.

[Mark0101]

Originally Posted by Padre

nor is he suing McDonalds for a million over a lap full of hot spilled coffee.

Might wanna look up google images for "McDonald's hot coffee burns" on google images, it was a legitimate case.

Back to the discussion, I fully support jhooper that he should have a car which is equal or better than what his car was. I hope everything turns out good for him.

And the vender who offered the suspension upgrade

[kamin]

Originally Posted by Banshee

Lets look at this differently....

I believe the dealership and insurance company of the dealership is treating this as if an unknown entity broke into the dealership, took the keys, destroyed the car.

A. The dealership would ONLY be suing the thief for the damage for the building and have absolutely NO responsibility for the theft and damage to the ZL1.

B. The owner (OP) insurance company handles the claim and ensuing lawsuit against the thief who broke into the dealership and stole the car.

C. The dealership has no responsibility to rectify anything for the ZL1 damage.

D. The OP insurance company has the responsibility to make the OP whole as best they can and NOT the dealership.

HOWEVER!!!!!

Since the theft...and this IS a theft, the dealership is 100% responsible for all damage and to make the OP whole by any and all means up to and including breech of contract and merchant ability.

My house burns down accidentally, my house gets rebuilt better than it was before if that is how I want it. HOWEVER, if I contract someone to burn my house down, he gets caught, I get implicated, I am ass-out.

Catch my drift?

I registered just to dispute this post.

The dealer is 100% liable, because they were in possession of the car at the time of the theft. This is no different that if an employee damages a car while the shop is open. When you drop a car off at a repair facility, the facility is completely responsible for the vehicles well being until it is returned. This is why a walk-around is performed and all scratches/dings/damage is marked. The customer and service writer should sign the paper this way there is an agreed upon record of the car's condition before it is worked on. I was a service manager for many years and have unfortunately had to deal with bullshit idiot techs who damage cars. Just because the dealer was closed doesn't mean they aren't responsible for the car because at the time of the damage it was signed over to the dealer. What if a random person has broken into the dealer and stole the car? this is NO DIFFERENT.

The dealer and their insurance should be covering this in a 100% fashion. period. The customer should be either receiving a check for the high value of the car or (at this point) a new replacement because this is ludicrous.

[Padre]

Originally Posted by Mark0101

Might wanna look up google images for "McDonald's hot coffee burns" on google images, it was a legitimate case.

I stand corrected.

{Insert legitimate example of a frivolous lawsuit here.}

Padre

[Jc's1LE]

Originally Posted by kamin

I registered just to dispute this post.

The dealer is 100% liable, because they were in possession of the car at the time of the theft. This is no different that if an employee damages a car while the shop is open. When you drop a car off at a repair facility, the facility is completely responsible for the vehicles well being until it is returned. This is why a walk-around is performed and all scratches/dings/damage is marked. The customer and service writer should sign the paper this way there is an agreed upon record of the car's condition before it is worked on. I was a service manager for many years and have unfortunately had to deal with bullshit idiot techs who damage cars. Just because the dealer was closed doesn't mean they aren't responsible for the car because at the time of the damage it was signed over to the dealer. What if a random person has broken into the dealer and stole the car? this is NO DIFFERENT.

The dealer and their insurance should be covering this in a 100% fashion. period. The customer should be either receiving a check for the high value of the car or (at this point) a new replacement because this is ludicrous.

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[Msmall143]

So I wrecked my 1le today

I don't know if it totaled yet or not (pics here http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=336943

But I sure hope it is so I can go down to 1st state chevrolet and get myself a new one! They'll probably let me test drive other customers cars!

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