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Burnin' Rubber · 03-22-2009, 03:25 PM

To anyone living in the snowbelt who plans on ordering, or already has ordered, a new Camaro, will you apply some sort of undercoat or oil spray whether or not you intend to take the car out in the winter?

My experience with cars is limited. I have had only my daily driver, a 1999 Grand Am, and I took it to Ziebart to have undercoat and soundproofing applied when new. It was pricey but it has held up well since then. The problem is the Ziebart in my area closed soon after and it's very rare to find a Ziebart shop around anymore.

I wanted to buy one of the "last" F-body Camaro or Firebird in 2002 but that year I found myself out of work so I had to keep my Grand Am a little longer. Since 2003, I have been taking my car to Krown to have an oil spray applied. My only complaint with the oil spray is that it traps a lot of dirt along the seams and it's always oily around the door jambs thereby making it difficult to keep clean. It's better than rust holes, for sure.

Alas, my Grand Am is inevitably getting old. We've been through a lot together and it's been reliable for the most part. I hope to be in the market for a new car in the next year. The new Camaro is on my list of possibilities and I have been following its development since Detroit 2006. It's a tough economy though, so I might settle for something else.

In any case, what are some of your thoughts? Would you consider applying undercoat or oil spray to your new car, whether it's a Camaro or not? Would it diminish its potential value if it has holes drilled into it for undercoat or oil spray? Would this sort of corrosion protection even be necessary if the car is garaged in winter? Isn't it odd that the previous generation Camaros and Firebirds had non-rusting plastic body panels and the new generation has sheet metal? Your feedback is much appreciated.

BLACK67 · 03-22-2009, 05:24 PM

I think with the modern engineering and coatings used, that undercoating is not necessary. Mine will garaged over the winter. Maybe 3 years latter we can look at it.

oilsandsoilfan · 04-06-2009, 09:02 PM

I will be undercoating and having mine permashined as it cheap and will protect from almost all elements.

OUR72GTO · 04-12-2009, 02:33 AM

Your owners manual says not to undercoat. Read it !

29er · 04-20-2009, 08:44 PM

volks is like that also, but what happens when rust is comin and you go at the dealer??? what will they tell you? --you didn't take care of your car we don't cover it we won't pay-- do it !! go ahead it's still good protection. and you do it for yourself not for the others. at least you'll slow things up and it's protection for the second owner..if you sell it one day..

TheCaptain · 04-20-2009, 11:18 PM

I dunno, i plan not to drive mine in winter... except for the occasional warm up of fluids.

I haven't undercoated my Cobalt SS SC at all, but i also only drive it in the winter to warm the fluids... not really worried about it too much.

Phil Oliver · 04-21-2009, 07:02 AM

I don't plan on driving mine in the winter and don't plan on undercoating.

SQUALO · 04-22-2009, 12:13 PM

No undercoating for me, because it won't be winter driven. As long as you keep it clean, with regular washings (NO HOUSEHOLD CLEANERS) and proper drying, you should not have rust issues.

theholycow · 04-22-2009, 12:42 PM

Don't undercoat. Do wash it once in a while. It will be fine.

LS3SSRS · 04-22-2009, 01:40 PM

no undercoat for me and i will be driving it in the winter...

Suskam · 04-22-2009, 02:17 PM

I've heard that undercoating is no longer needed in modern cars also.

82RS2010SS · 04-22-2009, 03:53 PM

Is there any cons to the permashine?

BLACK67 · 04-22-2009, 05:47 PM

Waist of time!

Bond · 05-13-2009, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LS3SSRS

no undercoat for me and i will be driving it in the winter...

Will be?
wow.

Not I. Living in Fort Mac, Won't be doing any winter driving, will be driving as far into the fall as I possibly can, and the car will be out by April 9 each year (my birthday).

No undercoating necessary.
J

03-22-2009, 03:25 PM	#1
Burnin' Rubber Drives: Domestic Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 35	Snowbelt Owners To anyone living in the snowbelt who plans on ordering, or already has ordered, a new Camaro, will you apply some sort of undercoat or oil spray whether or not you intend to take the car out in the winter? My experience with cars is limited. I have had only my daily driver, a 1999 Grand Am, and I took it to Ziebart to have undercoat and soundproofing applied when new. It was pricey but it has held up well since then. The problem is the Ziebart in my area closed soon after and it's very rare to find a Ziebart shop around anymore. I wanted to buy one of the "last" F-body Camaro or Firebird in 2002 but that year I found myself out of work so I had to keep my Grand Am a little longer. Since 2003, I have been taking my car to Krown to have an oil spray applied. My only complaint with the oil spray is that it traps a lot of dirt along the seams and it's always oily around the door jambs thereby making it difficult to keep clean. It's better than rust holes, for sure. Alas, my Grand Am is inevitably getting old. We've been through a lot together and it's been reliable for the most part. I hope to be in the market for a new car in the next year. The new Camaro is on my list of possibilities and I have been following its development since Detroit 2006. It's a tough economy though, so I might settle for something else. In any case, what are some of your thoughts? Would you consider applying undercoat or oil spray to your new car, whether it's a Camaro or not? Would it diminish its potential value if it has holes drilled into it for undercoat or oil spray? Would this sort of corrosion protection even be necessary if the car is garaged in winter? Isn't it odd that the previous generation Camaros and Firebirds had non-rusting plastic body panels and the new generation has sheet metal? Your feedback is much appreciated.

04-06-2009, 09:02 PM	#3
oilsandsoilfan Drives: 1969 Z28 and 2010 2SS, Ls3 6sp Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Fort McMurray, Alberta, Canada Posts: 63	I will be undercoating and having mine permashined as it cheap and will protect from almost all elements. __________________

04-12-2009, 02:33 AM	#4
OUR72GTO 2010 SIM Beige RS 6M Drives: SIM RS 6M 66 Corvair Silverado LTZ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Kamloops,British Columbia Posts: 4,677	Your owners manual says not to undercoat. Read it ! __________________ CAMARO.. 2010 The Heart Beat is back in CHEVROLET Now let's put it back in America

04-20-2009, 11:18 PM	#6
TheCaptain N7 Spectre Drives: 14 ATS Performance 3.6L AWD Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Moosomin, Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 2,734 View My Garage	I dunno, i plan not to drive mine in winter... except for the occasional warm up of fluids. I haven't undercoated my Cobalt SS SC at all, but i also only drive it in the winter to warm the fluids... not really worried about it too much. __________________

04-21-2009, 07:02 AM	#7
Phil Oliver Drives: 2010 SIM Camaro 1LT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Lower Sackville, Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 179	I don't plan on driving mine in the winter and don't plan on undercoating. __________________ SIM 1LT 19" polished rims. 2G1FF1EV8A9124407.

03-22-2009, 05:24 PM	#2
BLACK67 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS CGM Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ontario Posts: 930	I think with the modern engineering and coatings used, that undercoating is not necessary. Mine will garaged over the winter. Maybe 3 years latter we can look at it.

04-20-2009, 08:44 PM	#5
29er Drives: 14 1LE Garage King Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: MTL Posts: 1,519 View My Garage	volks is like that also, but what happens when rust is comin and you go at the dealer??? what will they tell you? --you didn't take care of your car we don't cover it we won't pay-- do it !! go ahead it's still good protection. and you do it for yourself not for the others. at least you'll slow things up and it's protection for the second owner..if you sell it one day..

04-22-2009, 12:13 PM	#8
SQUALO Drives: CHEVROLET Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: York Region, ONT. Posts: 4,258 View My Garage	No undercoating for me, because it won't be winter driven. As long as you keep it clean, with regular washings (NO HOUSEHOLD CLEANERS) and proper drying, you should not have rust issues. __________________ Frank (Drive Safely & Responsibly)

04-22-2009, 01:40 PM	#10
LS3SSRS Drives: 2010 IBM SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 805	no undercoat for me and i will be driving it in the winter... __________________ sold 2010 2SS/RS, 6spd manual, imperial blue metallic w/black leather Blacked out tail/signal lights, 5% rear tint, 20% sides, Dynomax Bullet mufflers, Barton short throw shifter, Clear Image offroad downpipes

04-22-2009, 02:17 PM	#11
Suskam Drives: '11 Camaro/ '02 Grand Prix Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 636 View My Garage	I've heard that undercoating is no longer needed in modern cars also. __________________

04-22-2009, 03:53 PM	#12
82RS2010SS Drives: 2010 2SS Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: oshawa Posts: 27	Is there any cons to the permashine?

04-22-2009, 05:47 PM	#13
BLACK67 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS CGM Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ontario Posts: 930	Waist of time!

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