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Old 06-24-2010, 10:41 AM   #43
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Let's keeps info relevant to the thread...

I had recently seen some great points made by one of the moderators and I thought I share it here with others. This is part of forum rules that we all should respect to keep this forum a healthy place for ideas, positive discussions and friendly debates.

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Old 06-24-2010, 12:08 PM   #44
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Here are a few pics of the turbos behind the power:








The rest are here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ipsmoto...7624216913609/
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Old 06-24-2010, 12:29 PM   #45
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Jeff, please excuse my ignorance. How does Tial come to the picture with Garrett turbos? Doesn't Garrett provide the housing for the turbos? Can you explain the benefits and the options you're offering.
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Old 06-24-2010, 12:46 PM   #46
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annnnnd....

....and you are hard at work and nearly finished with a tt kit for the v6 camaro owners as well????... -hmmm???

+1 for the v8 tt setup btw
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Old 06-24-2010, 12:49 PM   #47
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Jeff, please excuse my ignorance. How does Tial come to the picture with Garrett turbos? Doesn't Garrett provide the housing for the turbos? Can you explain the benefits and the options you're offering.
Not a lot of "Tech" info but here is a link to the housing on Tial's webpage:

http://www.tialsport.com/prod_tc_tial_d.htm

The basics are better flow due to the larger A/R options, V-band and cast stainless-steel housings for less weight and less physical size. This makes it easier to get a large turbo in a small space which is what made them so appealing to us in the Vette-world where space for turbos this large is almost impossible to come by. If you don't factor in the added cost they are a win-win-win
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Old 06-24-2010, 12:50 PM   #48
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Will this affect daily drivability? This may be just what Im looking for.
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Old 06-24-2010, 12:57 PM   #49
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Will this affect daily drivability? This may be just what Im looking for.
Your gas mileage and tire wear are sure to decrease

Ill take a "Ride along" video when the owner pics up so you get an idea on idle and general street driving.
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Not a lot of "Tech" info but here is a link to the housing on Tial's webpage:

http://www.tialsport.com/prod_tc_tial_d.htm

The basics are better flow due to the larger A/R options, V-band and cast stainless-steel housings for less weight and less physical size. This makes it easier to get a large turbo in a small space which is what made them so appealing to us in the Vette-world where space for turbos this large is almost impossible to come by. If you don't factor in the added cost they are a win-win-win
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Thanks Jeff. Garrett has always been great. But now with these new housing (elimination of gaskets) make them even better and longer lasting.

I think you should offer a group buy (like the old days when Peter from APS used to do with his kits and sell over 50 kits in one week ) to ensure you can order all your parts at one time.
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Your gas mileage and tire wear are sure to decrease

Ill take a "Ride along" video when the owner pics up so you get an idea on idle and general street driving.
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Please don't add [annoying] music to videos. Let's hear the car/turbos please!
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What are the power differences/bands between the 3 different turbos? I understand the 3076R is the smallest and to quote you good for "high 600s". Is the 3582R the middle ground between torque and horsepower gains as opposed to the others?

Are there dyno charts showing each turbo utilizing the same engine?

Also, more pics of the setup under the car showing a wider view please?
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Please don't add [annoying] music to videos. Let's hear the car/turbos please!
No problem at all
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What are the power differences/bands between the 3 different turbos? I understand the 3076R is the smallest and to quote you good for "high 600s". Is the 3582R the middle ground between torque and horsepower gains as opposed to the others?

Are there dyno charts showing each turbo utilizing the same engine?

Also, more pics of the setup under the car showing a wider view please?
We don't have dyno graphs comparing the 3 different options yet (Since the prototype car just finished up yesterday). I do, however, have a graph of the Billet GT3586's on a stock LS9 (So just pretend you kept the 6.2L displacement and built the bottom-end in your LS3) that made 900rwhp I can post if you would like to compare. That is the only way that turbo could ever be used anyway due to the power levels the first two are capable of.
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I'd like to see that chart and I'm sure others would as well.

So if you opt for either of the two larger turbos, a built bottom is suggested, even at 5psi?

I'm sorta new to turbos and I see a set up in my future...
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I'd like to see that chart and I'm sure others would as well.
Here is the graph comparing the TT ZR1 and the TT Camaro:

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