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Meanwhile he probably weighs 300lbs.....................
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The Camaro sure isn't perfect but you fail at logic 101. I know that the Camaro isn't for everyone, no car is, but that rant was just senseless. Despite that weight the Camaro LT and SS are widely considered the best vehicles in their categories right now with the sales numbers to back it up. The only vehicle in the entire 20-40k sports coupe category that's really competitive stock vs stock, msrp vs msrp is the also brand new 370Z at the opposite end of the spectrum (many would say in a different category given the lack of rear seats). It looks like Ford is going to seriously step up their competition next year, and I'm glad because if they weren't we'd never see those Camaro discounts as I doubt Dodge's new Fiat overlords have any intentions for their muscle cars other than a slow overpriced death spiral.
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Anyway the Mustang will bulk up when it adds those extra airbags and body re-enforcements. Plus every other drivetrain part they will have to beef up to withstand the new power. Remember... The 5th gen is only about 300-400lbs heavier than a 4th gen, but Ill list it again for those that forget so quickly. 20" rims with tire to boot. Brembo brakes 14 and 14.5" rotors IRS 6 airbags stronger transmission dual exhaust better interior/quality the car is also physically bigger These things dont come for no offset. Plus it still beats a 4th gen in every performance catagory....and the mustang gt needs to add suspension products and still cant keep up with an SS on a track. I dont see what the big deal is. Plus dont expect any major revisons to the ss for at least 2 more years. I dont think GM is ready to eat the cost of retooling an assembly line after just 1 production year. It may be a lot closer next year for the Mustang folk, there is no way the Mustang is going to blow the Camaro out of the water or anthing magical like that. |
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i don't think it is too heavy. the thing is faster than the GTO and is overall a better car
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What's funny is that the Challenger is no where in this discussion.
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i consider the chally just a cool cruiser. if price wasn't an issue i'd consider the SRT8—its got that classic look, but the SS is just the better buy
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ah smacks... shows how well my brain works
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Who say's they are going to have to add any rienforcement's. Yes the airbag's are a given but as far as we know it has all the rienforcement's it need's. And as far as the drivetrain goes mine seem's to be holding pretty good with 650hp with an auto tran's, so again I'm not so sure there are going to be any major changes.
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As for the drivetrain, people rag on the camaro tr606 cause its rated to 420lbft of torque, but we all know it makes well over that with forced induction. But the vette gets the better version. They will do it to stay on the safe side. As far as saftey, they raised the rollover and side impact standards for 2012, so I would expect them to bulk up the roof and doors at least. And no I dont have the exact stats, but its the truth. |
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What are people complaining about, I would love to have that auto tranny in my Mustang, that is the biggest thing I miss about my G8. I know what your saying about the roof and door's but it's already been said that those changes dont have to be made until like 2016 or somewhere close to that. And no I dont completely understand how those thing's work but if the Mustang already has a 5 star side impact rating and rollover then why would they need to make changes there. I'm not saying they wont need to, I'm just saying it does'nt seem likely to me. |
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