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Old 09-07-2008, 12:56 AM   #15
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I'm going to say 4.6 sec. for the LS3 but I want it to be 4.4 sec. I'm hoping for a 12.6 quarter mile time.
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Old 09-07-2008, 02:10 AM   #16
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4.6-4.7 for the ls3
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Old 09-07-2008, 08:34 AM   #17
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according to some calculator http://www.wallaceracing.com
i put the ss camaro weighs 3868 pounds has 422 horses shifts six times has 4.33 tire height and geared at a 3.45

it says 1/4 mile at 12.21 and 110 miles an hour
at 3860 pounds for a ss manual at 422 hp it should run.

1/8 7.70 at 88.24 mph.

i put it in the 0-60 calculator but it says 3.56 although id be happy with that i know the 0-60 is wrong
a dif site says 4.41

The reason the numbers are not coming out right is that the car won't shift 6 times in the 1/4 (at least I think that is what you meant). Actually, the manual car will shift into second just before 60 (about 55), and the auto shifts into third at 66, which is why the auto runs much better to 60mph. And in the quarter the manual uses third gear through the 1/4 mile (to 114 mph), while the auto shifts into 4th gear at about 102. This is why the auto has a slight edge, it is geared more aggressively for acceleration than the manual. Don't ask me why they did that, I would think you could dedicate 4 gears to the 1/4 mile run with a 6 speed manual tranny, and still have plenty of room for overdrive, but oh well. They really geared this thing to keep revs low to help fuel economy I suppose.

As for the calculator, the manual car will shift only twice (1-2, 2-3) in the 1/4.

I guess 4.5 auto, 4.8 manual
12.9 auto, 13.0 manual, both at 108 mph
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Old 09-07-2008, 11:28 AM   #18
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LOLmunds....
Edmunds shows slower times because by default they don't shave off .3 seconds for rollout like everyone else does. When you're feeling 0-60 the rollout isn't something that will count for anything; it is just a timing technicality.
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Old 09-07-2008, 11:46 AM   #19
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if you calculate the g8 gpx has a similar engine so 4050/4.7 = 860.
camaro will be more arodinamic so 3860/860 = 4.48.

lol im 100% sure thats not lagit but hey

lol my post makes no sence. because i simply divided the heavier car into 4.7 and that = 860 but on a lighter car...... im a dumbass lol.
I think the G8 GXP also has a more aggressive final gearing than the Camaro does, which would counteract much of the extra weight. But the Camaro will have better grip. Also aero has practically nothing to do with 0-60 times. I'll stick with the low end of the range that they gave us in July: 4.6s.
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Old 09-07-2008, 02:48 PM   #20
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my guess would be 4.5-4.6, better driver maybe hitting 4.4
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Old 09-07-2008, 05:21 PM   #21
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ill sit on a 4.5 auto, and a 4.6-4.7 manual w/a good driver.

the auto will win 99% of the time.
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Old 09-07-2008, 06:26 PM   #22
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ill sit on a 4.5 auto, and a 4.6-4.7 manual w/a good driver.

the auto will win 99% of the time.
ditto
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Old 09-07-2008, 06:50 PM   #23
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ill sit on a 4.5 auto, and a 4.6-4.7 manual w/a good driver.

the auto will win 99% of the time.
Being within 1/10 - 2/10s of a second I think reaction time will have more to do with what happens at a stop light (in a manual with a good driver), obviously someone who misses shifts etc. isn't going to hang with even a totally incompetant driver in an auto. That's where most of these "races" are going to happen (to the members of the police force on here sorry, but you know it's going to happen). At the drag strip theres a lot of bracket racing (the point of which is what?) so times down the strip don't matter as much as consistency (advantage definitely auto).
ps Bracket racing sucks. Isn't the whole point of drag racing to prove who has the faster car, what exactly does bracket racing prove?
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Old 09-08-2008, 09:43 AM   #24
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I think 4.6 and 13.2 for the auto and 4.8 and 13.6 for the manual.
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Old 09-08-2008, 11:10 AM   #25
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Being within 1/10 - 2/10s of a second I think reaction time will have more to do with what happens at a stop light (in a manual with a good driver), obviously someone who misses shifts etc. isn't going to hang with even a totally incompetant driver in an auto. That's where most of these "races" are going to happen (to the members of the police force on here sorry, but you know it's going to happen). At the drag strip theres a lot of bracket racing (the point of which is what?) so times down the strip don't matter as much as consistency (advantage definitely auto).
ps Bracket racing sucks. Isn't the whole point of drag racing to prove who has the faster car, what exactly does bracket racing prove?
i think auto will have a large advantage in both, consistancy and launch control. the Auto is the better racer.
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Old 09-08-2008, 01:18 PM   #26
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i think auto will have a large advantage in both, consistancy and launch control. the Auto is the better racer.
Depends what type of racing you are talking about.
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Depends what type of racing you are talking about.
nope.


1. lights, the Auto has the launch control, and will get off the line quicker, and it hits 60 quicker because of how they timed the shift pts.


2. with Drag the Auto will just outshift the manual, unless you dont like your car and powershift the shit out of it.

and honestly id rather loose in an auto than win damaging my car.
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Old 09-08-2008, 03:10 PM   #28
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i think auto will have a large advantage in both, consistancy and launch control. the Auto is the better racer.
I read the launch control is only available with the manual
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