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Bob Lutz, PDL, Scott Settlemire, Barry Meguiar (Mr. Car Crazy) and more than a few other folks (including the diehards in the now-ancient Z/28 Section, here) ALL share a commonality..."PASSION" for "things-automotive". Sunoco 260, solid lifters, sky-high redlines, AND rumbly tailpipes were/are their (our) CIALIS... If cut, Mobil 1 escapes... AGAIN, it's something you either "get"...or, you don't... |
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04-04-2013, 02:20 PM | #422 |
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Working at a automotive plant for over 16 years i have got to know some car enthusiasts. We were talking about the new Z/28 and one thing we all agreed on was the Z28 makes a lot more sense in placement of the affordable 1LE and that making a 70-80k Z/28 for the rich only doesn't make much sense. What is your opinion on this.
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04-04-2013, 02:20 PM | #423 | |
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04-04-2013, 02:35 PM | #424 |
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04-04-2013, 05:52 PM | #425 | |
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04-04-2013, 08:14 PM | #426 |
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I've had some time to ruminate on the changes and updates. I dont mind them at all. The front looks better, the rear is a wash. I would like to know if there are as many updates from 13 to 14 as there were from 12 to 13. I had an 11 SS and traded it for a 13 SS. The difference in driveability was night and day. The tweaks to the susp worked wonders. I was initially worried about the elec PS but it has been a non factor on the road and track. I put it on a road course within the first 6 months and few thousand <5k miles. Oh, and understeer at 135mph sucks, but I knew it would do that going in and I understand why its there. I just needed to let you know that some of us do explore the stock limits
And, since we're in constructive civil mode I have one very minor design change I'd like to see. The radio controls on the steering wheel. The little wheel that is on the left side with the raised bar across it. It should be used on the right side for scrolling through the radio stations. Its 'frustrating' when you try to roll the button up or down only to have it slip or when you apply enough pressure to get it to scroll up or down, it pushes in and changes the source. I spent hours driving from East TN to Biloxi, MS playing with the radio and this was my biggest complaint which should speak to my happiness with the product if thats all I can find to complain about. Oh, I'm serious about this too, check it out the next time you're behind the wheel. Look at how easy it is to roll the cruise control speed vs the radio stations. Just add the raised bar thing to the other side.
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04-04-2013, 08:20 PM | #427 |
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I agree 100% with that. Lol
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04-04-2013, 11:27 PM | #428 | |
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I really appreciate your efforts too. Sorry for my giving you grief on the taillights. I will go and see the car in person. Right now I am about to take delivery of a GM company owned vehicle. A 2013 Camaro 2LT at a substantial savings. I will drive it a year and see what comes up next year. If their is another one available...who knows...If I decide that I can tolerate the lights and the deal is good??? My 2013 will still be new enough to hold out for the 2016 if I am not motivated enough to do a 2014 or 2015. Take care, SilverSurfer21 |
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04-04-2013, 11:39 PM | #429 |
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I think the changes on the 2014 are great! The front end IMO looks better now. When I had my 2010 SS the grill remined me a little of a kid with buck teeth. New deisgn fixes that. Taillights are good. Love the fact that the hood vent is operational and not just a plastic ornament!! The only styling I'm not in love with is the depth of the license plate area and the fact thats where the black plastic and body color meet. I would prefer the body color to end under the plate area. This is not a deal breaker as my favorite color is Ashen Grey, which will hide that division. Looking forward to see whats included with the 1LE pkg!! Hoping for Recaro buckets!! (Heated if possible, Canada is far to cold without!)
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04-05-2013, 02:16 AM | #430 |
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I agree. But it was a relief to see clear pictures from the auto show after that morning show video left people aghast. I do prefer the tail lights from the Z28. Has it been confirmed that the SS without RS will come with those?
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04-05-2013, 06:52 AM | #431 | |
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04-05-2013, 06:08 PM | #432 |
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I tagged it out of the system. There are some SSs ans SS convertibles available too. Check them out if you are an employee or retiree and are interested.
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04-06-2013, 01:27 PM | #433 |
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I won't start a performance argument; I'm not qualified to defend myself in that area, and I may not know know design, but I know what I like; I like the design of the Camaro. I don't have any issues with the 2014 refresh, but after seeing the unveiling, I went out and bought a 2013 2SS/RS. I just like it more.
I didn't know what to think of the 2014 tailights, but they are already growing on me. I guess I just wasn't blown away by the refresh. That said, the Z/28 is beautiful. I like it much better than the 2014 SS...but the racing power of a Z/28 would go unused (much like my wife's china in the cupboard) if I went and bought one. The Camaro is my commute car and I want those creature comforts that the Z/28 lacks. Sadly, because of traffic, I wanted the automatic as well. Shoot... (now don't take away my membership but) I would have bought a 5th Gen Camaro with an electric or hybrid engine if they had one. I just love the design. I appreciate Team Camaro working hard to bring it back after it's hiatus and I appreciate their efforts to keep improving it each year. The incremental improvements are one of the reasons it took me to until this year to buy one. Every year there was one more "gotta have" that I waited for. This year you added the color HUD, so if you had added cooled seats, blindspot warning and another 10 mpg, I would have waited again (taillights be damned). Thanks for only adding 1 of the 4 things I was hoping for; I was tired of waiting. Special thanks to FbodFather for keeping us informed and teaching us about the history of the car that we're all obviously enthusiastic about. |
04-06-2013, 04:49 PM | #434 |
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Just got back from the NYIAS, and I have to say...I love the 2014 refresh. Before I went to the show, I was a big fan of the front end, ok with the heat extractor, and on the fence with the taillights. I didn't like them at first, but they started to grow on me and decided to hold my final opinion until I saw it in person.
The heat extractor looks smaller in pictures than it actually is. When I first saw the press release images I thought "If they had made it wider, it would look better" but after seeing it in person, it definitely works. As for the tail, this morning before going to the show, I liked the non-RS lights, and was not a huge fan of the LED, RS lights. Now, I really like both. Granted, I like the non-RS more, but the RS lights do look a hell of a lot better in person than they do in photos. Oh, and I've seen a few people here saying that there's no difference between seeing photos online and seeing things in person. If that's the case: https://www.google.com/search?q=gran...w=1900&bih=825 Congratulations, everyone! You've all been to the Grand Canyon! I'm not trying to start anything, just making a point that yes, the car does look different in person than in photos. If you don't like the rear end and want to express that opinion, that's your opinion and you have as much right to express it as I do mine I'd just appreciate it if everyone would keep their opinions civilized. All in all, this is just my $0.02 and probably worth less than that nowadays
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