1LE vs Boss (Automobile Magazine) - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Good2go · 08-14-2012, 08:21 AM

http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...2/viewall.html

GoldCartridgeGamer · 08-14-2012, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Good2go

http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...2/viewall.html

Thanks for sharing!

Will read it during lunch.

PYROLYSIS · 08-14-2012, 08:41 AM

Ok, they say the 1LE is faster around a track. What track were they on and what were the numbers? Great read but they left out the most important part.

Good2go · 08-14-2012, 08:47 AM

I agree, not much info in this article.

PYROLYSIS · 08-14-2012, 08:57 AM

They picked the boss as their favorite because they feel it's more fun to drive. At least when the mags picked the ZL1 even though it was slower on the strip, they backed up their decision by mentioning superior handling in addition to its easy to drive nature. Automobile isn't really saying anything other than the Boss stirs their emotions. Not really a good enough explanation on its own.

1LEE · 08-14-2012, 08:57 AM

I'll have to check this out.

b4z · 08-14-2012, 10:03 AM

Lap times?

2cnd chance · 08-14-2012, 10:31 AM

WOW! This article is complete political spin.

Except for their crazy summation they're telling us the Boss ain't the Boss!

2cnd chance · 08-14-2012, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by PYROLYSIS

They picked the boss as their favorite because they feel it's more fun to drive. At least when the mags picked the ZL1 even though it was slower on the strip, they backed up their decision by mentioning superior handling in addition to its easy to drive nature. Automobile isn't really saying anything other than the Boss stirs their emotions. Not really a good enough explanation on its own.

What they are calling "fun" to drive is actually the chassis and handling characteristics showing their weaknesses and archaic designs.

Mike2ss · 08-14-2012, 10:56 AM

As different as these two cars are, this showdown is as close as it comes to a stalemate. All rational thinking puts the Camaro ahead of the Mustang. In addition to being the faster car, it's also significantly cheaper than the Boss. As a $3500 option on top of the SS's $33,535 starting price, the 1LE undercuts the Boss by a whopping $5960. Yet while you're turning faster laps in the 1LE, you'll be yearning for the involvement and the specialness of the Mustang. Everything that the Camaro package addresses -- body roll, gearing, and handling behavior -- were complaints we had about the SS back in 2010. The 1LE package comes off as a fix for what was broken rather than improving on an already excellent car. That's what the Boss 302 does.

The raucous Mustang installs itself in your subconscious with the viciousness of a drug addiction. Despite knowing there's an objectively better alternative with a Chevy badge, we are lured back to the Boss again and again. Its responsive chassis, competent handling, and brawny engine strike us in a psychological weak spot where emotions overrule sensibilities. We'd never question someone for making the rational choice of a Camaro SS 1LE, but reason be damned, the Boss 302 is the car we want.

While I love my camaro, I knda agree with the article, Chevy fixed an existing issue, and I will never let up, the 2012 1LE should have gotten an increase in HP.

1LEE · 08-14-2012, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike2ss

As different as these two cars are, this showdown is as close as it comes to a stalemate. All rational thinking puts the Camaro ahead of the Mustang. In addition to being the faster car, it's also significantly cheaper than the Boss. As a $3500 option on top of the SS's $33,535 starting price, the 1LE undercuts the Boss by a whopping $5960. Yet while you're turning faster laps in the 1LE, you'll be yearning for the involvement and the specialness of the Mustang. Everything that the Camaro package addresses -- body roll, gearing, and handling behavior -- were complaints we had about the SS back in 2010. The 1LE package comes off as a fix for what was broken rather than improving on an already excellent car. That's what the Boss 302 does.

The raucous Mustang installs itself in your subconscious with the viciousness of a drug addiction. Despite knowing there's an objectively better alternative with a Chevy badge, we are lured back to the Boss again and again. Its responsive chassis, competent handling, and brawny engine strike us in a psychological weak spot where emotions overrule sensibilities. We'd never question someone for making the rational choice of a Camaro SS 1LE, but reason be damned, the Boss 302 is the car we want.

While I love my camaro, I knda agree with the article, Chevy fixed an existing issue, and I will never let up, the 2012 1LE should have gotten an increase in HP.

The dual mode exhaust should provide some extra power (provides 6hp on the vettes.)

GM is notorious for under rating their engines, and instead of going through a whole validating process for 6hp extra (or so), they just rate it the same. Don't get so caught up on the need for extra power.... 426hp is nothing to be ashamed of, and due to the suspension, gearing, & tire upgrades it should hold its own just fine.

strokerls1 · 08-14-2012, 11:38 AM

My 2013 1ss is WAY faster than the 2012 I had. I believe the addition of dual mode and electric p/s is good for ateast 20hp. I ran my brother's auto 5.0 at the track and I pulled him everytime up top. My car trapped 113mph. With the 1LE's new trans and rear end on top of the dual mode and electric p/s, I believe this car is a good bit quicker than GM is leading on

1LEE · 08-14-2012, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by strokerls1

My 2013 1ss is WAY faster than the 2012 I had. I believe the addition of dual mode and electric p/s is good for ateast 20hp. I ran my brother's auto 5.0 at the track and I pulled him everytime up top. My car trapped 113mph. With the 1LE's new trans and rear end on top of the dual mode and electric p/s, I believe this car is a good bit quicker than GM is leading on

Thanks for posting this.... I would assume that the electric power steering would help as well.

Good to know.

v6sonoma · 08-14-2012, 11:56 AM

It doesn't matter what the track and times were. Chevy guys will buy the SS 1LE's and Ford guys will buy the slower and overpriced Boss 302's. Both will be happy. But the chevy guys will be winning! lol

08-14-2012, 08:21 AM	#1
Good2go Team Chevrolet Drives: 2007 Z06 and 2011 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: San Antonio Posts: 441 View My Garage	1LE vs Boss (Automobile Magazine) http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...2/viewall.html __________________ Forgeline GA3's 9.5/11 with NT-05 Nitto's, Pedders Sportsryder Supercar Coilovers, MGW Shifter, LPE GT1-1 Cam, AR 1 7/8" LT's, Halltech CAI, SW Retro Chambered Cat-Back, Installed and tuned by Corey @ Henderson Performance Technology.

08-14-2012, 08:41 AM	#3
PYROLYSIS Remember the Charleston 9 Drives: 2004 KME PREDATOR, 2014 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Summerv1LE SC Posts: 5,381 View My Garage	Ok, they say the 1LE is faster around a track. What track were they on and what were the numbers? Great read but they left out the most important part. __________________ BRING BACK THE B4C POLICE CAMARO! 2002 V-6 5 speed rally red (current camaro) Also driven:1992 Z-28 305 auto Red w/ black stripes (anniversary), 2001 V-6 auto light pewter metallic,1991 RS V-6 auto Black

08-14-2012, 08:47 AM	#4
Good2go Team Chevrolet Drives: 2007 Z06 and 2011 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: San Antonio Posts: 441 View My Garage	I agree, not much info in this article. __________________ Forgeline GA3's 9.5/11 with NT-05 Nitto's, Pedders Sportsryder Supercar Coilovers, MGW Shifter, LPE GT1-1 Cam, AR 1 7/8" LT's, Halltech CAI, SW Retro Chambered Cat-Back, Installed and tuned by Corey @ Henderson Performance Technology.

08-14-2012, 08:57 AM	#5
PYROLYSIS Remember the Charleston 9 Drives: 2004 KME PREDATOR, 2014 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Summerv1LE SC Posts: 5,381 View My Garage	They picked the boss as their favorite because they feel it's more fun to drive. At least when the mags picked the ZL1 even though it was slower on the strip, they backed up their decision by mentioning superior handling in addition to its easy to drive nature. Automobile isn't really saying anything other than the Boss stirs their emotions. Not really a good enough explanation on its own. __________________ BRING BACK THE B4C POLICE CAMARO! 2002 V-6 5 speed rally red (current camaro) Also driven:1992 Z-28 305 auto Red w/ black stripes (anniversary), 2001 V-6 auto light pewter metallic,1991 RS V-6 auto Black

08-14-2012, 08:57 AM	#6
1LEE Drives: 2007 Cobalt SS/SC Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 270	I'll have to check this out. __________________

08-14-2012, 10:03 AM	#7
b4z Drives: '06 Pontiac GTO M6, '19 F150 2.7TT Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 1,425	Lap times?

08-14-2012, 10:31 AM	#8
2cnd chance Too Many Great Choices Drives: Grand Sport/Z07 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: A Mountain Road Posts: 7,454	WOW! This article is complete political spin. Except for their crazy summation they're telling us the Boss ain't the Boss!

08-14-2012, 10:56 AM	#10
Mike2ss Airborne Pathfinder Drives: Camaro ZL575 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: San Benito, TX Posts: 1,139	As different as these two cars are, this showdown is as close as it comes to a stalemate. All rational thinking puts the Camaro ahead of the Mustang. In addition to being the faster car, it's also significantly cheaper than the Boss. As a $3500 option on top of the SS's $33,535 starting price, the 1LE undercuts the Boss by a whopping $5960. Yet while you're turning faster laps in the 1LE, you'll be yearning for the involvement and the specialness of the Mustang. Everything that the Camaro package addresses -- body roll, gearing, and handling behavior -- were complaints we had about the SS back in 2010. The 1LE package comes off as a fix for what was broken rather than improving on an already excellent car. That's what the Boss 302 does. The raucous Mustang installs itself in your subconscious with the viciousness of a drug addiction. Despite knowing there's an objectively better alternative with a Chevy badge, we are lured back to the Boss again and again. Its responsive chassis, competent handling, and brawny engine strike us in a psychological weak spot where emotions overrule sensibilities. We'd never question someone for making the rational choice of a Camaro SS 1LE, but reason be damned, the Boss 302 is the car we want. While I love my camaro, I knda agree with the article, Chevy fixed an existing issue, and I will never let up, the 2012 1LE should have gotten an increase in HP. __________________ 2010 Camaro Indy 500 Pace car, LS3-ZL575 Other cars are- 95 BMW 325 sedan- AA exhaust, AA CAI, AA Strut bar, AA chip, M3 rotors and calipers, racing clutch, oversized injectors, upgraded M3 interior- Audi A4 SLine, with black out optics

08-14-2012, 11:38 AM	#12
strokerls1 Drives: 2015 Charger Hellcat Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Flowery Branch, GA Posts: 307	My 2013 1ss is WAY faster than the 2012 I had. I believe the addition of dual mode and electric p/s is good for ateast 20hp. I ran my brother's auto 5.0 at the track and I pulled him everytime up top. My car trapped 113mph. With the 1LE's new trans and rear end on top of the dual mode and electric p/s, I believe this car is a good bit quicker than GM is leading on

08-14-2012, 11:56 AM	#14
v6sonoma Drives: 2010 SS RS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Providence, RI Posts: 8,108 View My Garage	It doesn't matter what the track and times were. Chevy guys will buy the SS 1LE's and Ford guys will buy the slower and overpriced Boss 302's. Both will be happy. But the chevy guys will be winning! lol __________________ Mods: BBK Intake, BBK LT's and High Flow Cats, Corsa Cat-back exhaust, Hurst short throw shifter, SLP skip-shift eliminator. 7/1/09 Placed order for IOM/IO int/ SS/RS 6M 9/26/09 Took delivery!