05-13-2014, 10:12 AM | #43 |
Chu no guat a hasa is?
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Mine are always on. only time i turn them off is when i wanna do a burn out. driving with them off to me is plain stupid. No wonder people crash.
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05-13-2014, 10:37 AM | #44 |
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Wild Bucking Bronco! Sure the nannies are some times a real pain in the ass, but plenty of those times I'd probably would've done a 180 or worst in a busy intersection. They do result in a false sense of security because when they start to kick in you just leave your footed planted to the floor and enjoy the Bronco ride. Lots of jerking back and forth as it gives and takes power, but it makes it easy to steer thru it all! With them turned OFF you'd have to let off the throttle or lose control.
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Here's a couple of good articles explaining how each system works, and how they work together. http://www.edmunds.com/car-safety/traction-control.html http://www.edmunds.com/car-safety/st...-yaws-out.html And here are some videos explaining the technology:
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05-13-2014, 10:43 AM | #46 |
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If I know I am going to play, and am tuned in at that level of attention, then i turn them off. It does not matter the intent of the trip, it depends on my mood at the time. I would say mine are on 90% of the time, and off the other. I appreciate them protecting my Goodyears against unintended slippage! Damned things are expensive!
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05-13-2014, 10:45 AM | #47 | |
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I was referring to stock production cars. Sure you could upgrade them to remove some of the issues, but not all. Tire tech has come a very long way since the 15" rim. They handled poorly, and lost control way before today's mini-van. There are even 175mph American station wagons now that can click off a very low 12 ET and pull nearly a g in a corner. If you could drive a 1965 V8 Mustang fast, you could probably kick Schumacher's ass today.
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05-13-2014, 10:48 AM | #48 |
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As other people have stated...
Correcting a vehicle that's about ready to get out of control requires different techniques if you have the nannies off than they do if you have them on. With the nannies on, the car is doing most of the work FOR you.. which, might give you a false sense of security if you feel like taking them off. Unless you've learned how to control and maneuver out of a trouble situation with a powerful RWD car, leave the nannies on until you've gone to a driving school and and learned how to drive with them off.
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05-13-2014, 11:11 AM | #49 |
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lets put it into a real world driving scenario. If you are taking a left hand turn at a intersection and you cut it to hard and to fast:
WITH TC: you simply feel a violent vibration and braking feeling that prevents your ass end from sliding into the other lane and doing a 360 degree spin. WITHOUT TC: your tires will slide over the concrete sending your ass end around and if you know how to drive you will send your front wheels the oppoiste way and complete a pretty badass drift (like I do sometimes.... on a close course of course .) but if you dont know what your doing, your gonna be sent into a 180, 360, 540, 720 degree spin depending on how slippery the road is! LETS PUT IT THIS WAY.... Unless you are having fun and KNOW HOW TO DO IT SAFELY keep the nannies on.... NUFF SAID
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05-13-2014, 11:24 AM | #50 |
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I assume this is in jest, and if not, it is just plain silly. I get he is still in a coma, so yes, I am sure he would be beatable now! As a past owner of some 60's and 70's muscle cars, and having had the opportunity to drive others, I agree they are a handful compared to todays cars. YOu had to be good to get all you could out of them, but their performance ceiling was low in stock trim compared to todays factory hotrods. You have to be just as good at driving to get everything out of todays cars, the end result is just much higher up the scale. It is fun to compare our '69 to the '13. There is a massive difference!
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05-13-2014, 11:40 AM | #51 |
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ok .. another dumb question ... nannies???????
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05-13-2014, 11:45 AM | #52 |
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OP does your Mom spend alot of time at the drag strip? On the street leave it on.
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traction and stability control.
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05-13-2014, 11:53 AM | #54 | |
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05-13-2014, 11:56 AM | #55 | |
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DOH!!! Hope he recovers. Sadly his skiis probably did not have SC on them.
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05-13-2014, 12:21 PM | #56 | |
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If you're at an autocross or possibly a road course HPDE, it is possible for the rear brakes to get used more than you think, with some cars being worse than others. Partial brake fade and shortened pad life are not acceptable consequences . . . though you won't run into a pad wear problem on the street without at least a little warning (brake pad wear indicators sounding off), and you shouldn't be fading the brakes on the street period. Norm |
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