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Driveshaftshop · 11-08-2013, 08:06 AM

all of the issues with the 1st 9" from everyone has been resolved, its not an issue. the real cost is about 6000.00 but that's not just the diff it will include both axles and a custom driveshaft so if you dont have those items (if you do and there ours we can alter them to fit for allot less) We have gone further than most realize there is an issue with the cars being lowered and we now have a different design axle that will work 100% in lowered cars, why ? we sell more axles and Diffs than anyone so we will not only see the issue 1st but will also correct it ASAP (and correct any that have been sold in the past, its what we do so dont ever worry about a purchase from DSS or its distributors)

a good set of axles will be 1200.00 to 1600.00 a good shaft 900.00 so if you take these off being you need them anyhow. The diff is only about 4000.00
We can offer any of these for that

1. Our 9" kit with the 33 spline Wavetrac (less for Eaton)
2. Hammerhead kit with the 33 spline Wavetrac (less for Eaton)
3. The New Dana 60 from strange, just released and a very nice piece.

dont let the numbers confuse what has to be done, any of these will hold up better than the stock diff, some may make it live like a stock axle but in the end the materials are going to get you. think about what i have written, give me a message if you have any questions.

MikeOD · 11-08-2013, 08:29 AM

The ZL1 rear also only has 2 gear options (auto and manual)...I don't know of anyone making aftermarket gears/diff's/axles/driveshafts for them...they may be strong, but they really limit your choices.

Turbo99 · 11-08-2013, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeOD

The ZL1 rear also only has 2 gear options (auto and manual)...I don't know of anyone making aftermarket gears/diff's/axles/driveshafts for them...they may be strong, but they really limit your choices.

I am ok with the 3.73, I had a 3.45 and now a 3.91 and I think GM made the right choice on the 3.73.

Jason P · 11-08-2013, 08:48 AM

I have the zl1 rear. The 373 gears was my choice of gears to go with the blower and cam setup I'm running. Not one issue with it. Not positive, but I want to say you will add about 100 lbs.

H-E · 11-08-2013, 09:09 AM

Keep in mind the Zl1 no warranty setup comes with a two piece shaft with rubber at each end...If you replace it with a proper shaft you'll spend as much or more than the proven 9 inch.When have I ever led you wrong

*SSE 4 2SS* · 11-08-2013, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Turbo99

So no one in this thread has had a vibration issue with the 9"?
What about weight difference between the 2, I would think the ZL1 stuff would be heavier since it is larger and an iron case, but does anyone have any numbers to put on it?

Turbo, I have run my nine over 200 mph and it's smooth as silk... I also have a four inch one piece driveshaft... Breaking any of these items is the least of my worries... It was a little noisy when I first put it in, but that cleared up quickly...

I like the security offered in the stated warranty above by DSS as they have proven time and again they are good for it...

Turbo99 · 11-08-2013, 09:58 AM

I think I am looking hard into the Strange Dana 60 waiting for Frank to call me back for some info on it.

ITGuy11 · 11-08-2013, 11:05 AM

Zero Problems with my ZL1 rear end setup. Under $4k out the door for everything..

swiftkart · 11-08-2013, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Turbo99

I think I am looking hard into the Strange Dana 60 waiting for Frank to call me back for some info on it.

That interesting you broke a Turetrac, it's rated at 1000rwhp and they run them in the Strange Dana 60 setup you are thinking about going with, they do offer a Wavetrac option also I think, do you think it could have been installed incorrectly or it could have just been bad from the factory?

Chris82xx · 11-08-2013, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbo99

I am not sure I follow the comment of "breaking a true Trac is off" are you saying it doesn't add up? I don't abuse my car I lift when I shift, it broke on a 1.51 60ft so whether it be 9s or not it was a solid hook and it broke. I was under the same impression as many that it would hold fine and the ring and pinion was going to be my weak link

Pretty much what was already said. Those units are made for a lot of horsepower. It makes me wonder if it was installed properly, or if the correct fluid was used. Not sure if you now this, maybe you do, but, they say to use non-synthetic oil with that unit.

Pro Stock John · 11-08-2013, 12:24 PM

If it only makes noise turning right maybe you broke a spider gear if the Eaton has such a thing?

Driveshaftshop · 11-08-2013, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by swiftkart

That interesting you broke a Turetrac, it's rated at 1000rwhp and they run them in the Strange Dana 60 setup you are thinking about going with, they do offer a Wavetrac option also I think, do you think it could have been installed incorrectly or it could have just been bad from the factory?

Keep in mind all Eatons will not be made the same, due to internal dimensions some will be better and some worse depending on how much
room that have to work with.

Driveshaftshop · 11-08-2013, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ITGuy11

Zero Problems with my ZL1 rear end setup. Under $4k out the door for everything..

We recently did a repair on a ZL1 axle, man that was one big axle. did the axles bolt into the car after the install. i see the inner spline was different but other wise besides the weight (think it was 30lbs) it was nice looking part.

p.s. what did you do for the shaft, the rear pinion centric pin is larger.

Driveshaftshop · 11-08-2013, 01:15 PM

I spoke to my Friend from Strange and i have some new info. on the Dana 60 the diff they supply comes with Stubs and there also designed for the cap we use on the end of our axles so if the axle is unbolted it will be clean.

The good news us they designed the Dana 60 to be able to be used with either the DSS stock X4 and X5 axles or if your thinking about changing from the 9" to the Dana they also have a set of stubs that will let them bolt right on. nice stuff.

11-08-2013, 08:29 AM	#16
MikeOD Drives: 2010 M6 2SS Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: South Windsor, CT Posts: 1,202	The ZL1 rear also only has 2 gear options (auto and manual)...I don't know of anyone making aftermarket gears/diff's/axles/driveshafts for them...they may be strong, but they really limit your choices. __________________ 2010 Camaro SS M6. Heads/Cam/Intake/Headers/Exhaust/Suspension

11-08-2013, 08:48 AM	#18
Jason P Drives: 2011 2ss Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: United States Posts: 272	I have the zl1 rear. The 373 gears was my choice of gears to go with the blower and cam setup I'm running. Not one issue with it. Not positive, but I want to say you will add about 100 lbs. __________________ 2011 2ss Ram twin plate ceramic clutch, Texas speed 418 LS3 235 /243 .621 / .624 cam, ported and polished heads with dual springs,magnum push rods, Hotchkis race pack, Stainless Power long tube headers with no cats, Magna Flo competition exhaust, lpe fuel pump, magnuson supercharger with overdrive and port matched blower plate, IW 8 rib pullies, AEM meth kit, id 850 injectors, 3 bar map, halltech cai, zl1 rear diff

11-08-2013, 09:58 AM	#21
Turbo99 Drives: 08' F250 Diesel & 10' Camaro 2SS Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Gainesville,Fl Posts: 1,362 View My Garage	I think I am looking hard into the Strange Dana 60 waiting for Frank to call me back for some info on it. __________________ 08' F250 CCSB 6.4L Diesel White & Black, Blacked out, 580RWHP @ 55psi 13.21 @ 101mph 10' Camaro 2SS LS3 M6 White & Black, Blacked out, 684 RWHP & 633 FT.LBS @ 10psi 10.82@130mph TVS2300 ,Hendrix Street Slayer Twin Carbon Clutch, Dana 60 3.73, DSS 1400HP Axles,JRe cam & LaMotta Performance tuned,LPE Fuel, AI Super Chiller,MT ET Streets

11-08-2013, 12:24 PM	#25
Pro Stock John Writer Drives: 2010 SS / 1967 Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 7,216	If it only makes noise turning right maybe you broke a spider gear if the Eaton has such a thing? __________________ PROJECT HEAVY CHEVY Camaro Now: Mods for the Masses Part I \| Part II 13.15@106 1.95 \| 100% Stock 12.37@112 1.85 \| + Kooks Headers/Cats + 20" 555R + CAI + BW TB + UDP + Tune 12.06@113 1.70 \| + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune 11.84@115 1.59 \| + 3.91s + Race Star 17x7 Fronts 10.90@125 1.47 \| + GPI VVT Cam + BW Ported Heads + CD 3800

11-08-2013, 08:06 AM	#15
Driveshaftshop Drives: own more cars than i can list Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 1,124	all of the issues with the 1st 9" from everyone has been resolved, its not an issue. the real cost is about 6000.00 but that's not just the diff it will include both axles and a custom driveshaft so if you dont have those items (if you do and there ours we can alter them to fit for allot less) We have gone further than most realize there is an issue with the cars being lowered and we now have a different design axle that will work 100% in lowered cars, why ? we sell more axles and Diffs than anyone so we will not only see the issue 1st but will also correct it ASAP (and correct any that have been sold in the past, its what we do so dont ever worry about a purchase from DSS or its distributors) a good set of axles will be 1200.00 to 1600.00 a good shaft 900.00 so if you take these off being you need them anyhow. The diff is only about 4000.00 We can offer any of these for that 1. Our 9" kit with the 33 spline Wavetrac (less for Eaton) 2. Hammerhead kit with the 33 spline Wavetrac (less for Eaton) 3. The New Dana 60 from strange, just released and a very nice piece. dont let the numbers confuse what has to be done, any of these will hold up better than the stock diff, some may make it live like a stock axle but in the end the materials are going to get you. think about what i have written, give me a message if you have any questions.

11-08-2013, 09:09 AM	#19
H-E Account Suspended Drives: 2010 zr1 Camaro 2011 vert Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: everywhere Posts: 1,121	Keep in mind the Zl1 no warranty setup comes with a two piece shaft with rubber at each end...If you replace it with a proper shaft you'll spend as much or more than the proven 9 inch.When have I ever led you wrong

11-08-2013, 11:05 AM	#22
ITGuy11 Burning up tires Drives: 2023 ZL1 Vert Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Macomb Twp, MI Posts: 717	Zero Problems with my ZL1 rear end setup. Under $4k out the door for everything..

11-08-2013, 01:15 PM	#28
Driveshaftshop Drives: own more cars than i can list Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 1,124	I spoke to my Friend from Strange and i have some new info. on the Dana 60 the diff they supply comes with Stubs and there also designed for the cap we use on the end of our axles so if the axle is unbolted it will be clean. The good news us they designed the Dana 60 to be able to be used with either the DSS stock X4 and X5 axles or if your thinking about changing from the 9" to the Dana they also have a set of stubs that will let them bolt right on. nice stuff.