07-31-2012, 08:05 PM | #155 | |
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07-31-2012, 08:27 PM | #156 |
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Now that was nice!!!! Love It!
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07-31-2012, 08:28 PM | #157 | |
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However even if you were able to retain the stock shocks all it would do is guarantee you would lose. The GS cars are running spring rates that are completely unstreetable. We're talking anywhere from 800 to 1,200 lbs, and perhaps more. The stock LE1 shocks wouldn't be able to handle that without modification. Why not just buy a set of fully adjustable race shocks? Trust me on this. I own a race car that is built to a "stock" class rules set that is similar to the Grand Am Continental rules. And yes, I have seen the VIR video. The LE1 looks fantastic for a street car. Put a Grand Am GS spec suspension on it and it will lap the Grand Course at least 5 seconds faster. |
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07-31-2012, 08:55 PM | #158 | |
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In 1996 Camaro A/C became standard and there was no A/C delete (1LE) as in previous years. So the '96 1LE had A/C but in a base Z28 there were manual windows etc. Having had three 1LE's previously (racing one in SCCA T-2) I just like them and have a new 1LE ordered; ARH headers, CAI and a tune will help with some more HP. Sometimes it all comes down to personal desires, I like the 1LE for all it is and all it is not. |
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07-31-2012, 09:24 PM | #159 | |
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Those Camaros also run solid metal bushings - very stiff suspension. |
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07-31-2012, 11:57 PM | #160 |
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08-01-2012, 12:12 AM | #161 |
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Not really. I fully expect a well sorted IRS to out perform a SRA car on the track. Looks like GM has finally fixed the cars achilles heel. Glad to see it as the first gen 5 Camaros like the first of the '05 Mustangs severely disappointed me during test drives. If I was looking at a Camaro for me, this would be the one.
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08-01-2012, 05:34 AM | #162 |
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The 1LE is a great package overall, I am really thinking of buying one of these now. I couldn't give a crap about the Z/28. The only real ones were the 67'-69' anyway! If you can't find what you want in this line up now, your looking at the wrong car.
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08-01-2012, 11:27 AM | #163 | |
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Yes, it's all true the GS is a race car, mandatory optional shocks, stiffer this, better that, whatever the rules allows, teams will take advantage. But my point was the 1LE option was made for the track right of GM assembly plant. In the past most teams ordered it with the 1LE because of the all the extra racing components. Yes the Series rules will allows upgrades but the 1LE is a better base car to work with then just the SS when you're building a Spec race car for any series and since the GS car has to be an OEM car of the dealers lot, they will order the 1LE option. Okay maybe I got a little carried by saying it will be a Carnage on every track, but I'm a dedicated Camaro race fan and driver...what do you expect! Me too, I would love a see a time on VIR with a GS and a GT car! Cheers P.S. Last year the GS car ran a best lap of 1:36.-- at Laguna Seca which is on par with the Corvette ZR1' s time there. The ZL1 and the Boss 302LS did 1:39.-- so yes 5 seconds more at VIR seems about right.
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08-01-2012, 11:49 AM | #165 | |
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08-01-2012, 12:03 PM | #166 | |
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I made a mistake the next race they are going back at the Glen in N.Y. for the short race and I'm next to Gilles Villeneuve Circuit in Montreal, Mosport in close to Toronto.
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Maybe some of the guys who actually ran/run IMSA and SCcA events can back me up on something I read about the third gens many years ago. The article said that the showroom stock race teams were putting ever stiffer springs on the cars trying to decrease roll and improve lap times. They realized that they had reached the point of no return because the body structure was not stiff enough and all the stiffer springs did was bend the chassis even more.
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08-01-2012, 05:35 PM | #168 | |
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