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Drake Heminger · 10-11-2011, 02:42 AM

possibly round 47k i make this prediction off of the market of the Camaro... 2011 and 12 SS models went down 3 grand in MSRP than last year... this implicates a that the ZL1 market-wise wouldnt sell above 47k it just wouldnt make sense... especially with the economy... who else agrees?

Blue Menace · 10-11-2011, 06:37 AM

^^ no one. It's just not gonna happen.

IROCanSS · 10-11-2011, 06:42 AM

Drake is on dope. Sorry man, zero chance this car is had less than 50k. Sorry.

And how did the SS go down 3k?

cyrusthevirus · 10-11-2011, 08:16 AM

i hope i can work with my suppliers discount on this. I want to try to get this for invoice or very close. Every car i bought i was able to pull it off so far...

IROCanSS · 10-11-2011, 08:21 AM

Here is another little tid bit of information if you don't want to get taken for a ride...

GM family/friends/supplier.... This is permitted on 99.9% of cars GM sells. In recent years when the Camaro was hot off the press, dealerships would tell unknowing customers "oh sorry, GM doesn't allow family/supplier discounts on the Camaro". This is a 100% LIE. It's up to the dealer if they CHOOSE to honor the discount. Only cars recently that GM disallows the discounts on were the ZR1 and CTS-V but I bet that's lifted now. GM may disallow the discount on the ZL1 at first but you can make your dealer show you proof. They (dealer) aren't obligated to honor the discount but they ARE OBLIGATED to be honest with you.

I will find out from my dealer the skinny on it as soon as he knows...

cyrusthevirus · 10-11-2011, 08:31 AM

i was looking at the zr1 from 2011 n its posted on there big chunk cut off from the pricing.. Even looking at the 2nd level vette that starts at 50 dropped her down to 44k !!! The camaro's are at 1500 cash back currently. Plus you can stack other deals, i have done this in the past/

example model
2011 Corvette
type
2dr Cpe
style
Z16 Grand Sport w/1LT
Exterior color

Arctic White

Interior color

Ebony, Leather Seating Surfaces

base msrp*
$55,045
colors & options
$2,890
delivery & handling
$950
total msrp
$58,885
supplier price
$54,286
current offers
-$3,000

Cash Allowance: Up to $3,000 cash back

Net Price
$51,286

IROCanSS · 10-11-2011, 08:37 AM

True BUT there is much less allowance on a Camaro over a Corvette. It's not linear.

Both under the "old" GMS system:

My 2007 Corvette, MSRP $45,000, GMS $37,000 (17% off)
My 2010 Camaro, MSRP $37,000, GMS $33,000 (11% off)

Plus the system is new now, discounts are much less...

cyrusthevirus · 10-11-2011, 08:56 AM

its a start if u cant get the dealer to come down

JEFF2010SSMANUAL · 10-11-2011, 03:11 PM

I asked my cousin who is a manager at the Chevy dealer how many he is getting in. He said 2. He also said they would sell to TOP bider. $100k I bet. Dont get too excited unless you are able to order one from a dealer that will let it go for sticker. GOOD LUCK !!!!!!!

IROCanSS · 10-11-2011, 03:58 PM

Well unless your cousin is Merlin, or has a crystal ball, he can't have that information bc it won't be released until the 24th but nice try.

Are some of you even paying attention?

Oct 24 - allocation consensus is released to dealer... This is when they find out how many and when.

Oct 29 - workbook opens (orders officially taken)

GoldenBear · 10-11-2011, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrhaus76

Well unless your cousin is Merlin, or has a crystal ball, he can't have that information bc it won't be released until the 24th but nice try.

Are some of you even paying attention?

Oct 24 - allocation consensus is released to dealer... This is when they find out how many and when.

Oct 29 - workbook opens (orders officially taken)

Yes, there does appear to be quite a bit of disinformation and misinformation being posted around regarding ZL1 allocation numbers and pricing. -- "I spoke to my cousin's friend whose old roommate had a girlfriend whose sister used to date a guy who knew somebody who worked at Chevy dealership and he said ..."

What is known, as stated above:

Oct 24 -- dealers receive initial allocations
Oct 29 -- workbench orders can be placed
mid November -- pricing is announced

All else is speculation at this point.

IROCanSS · 10-11-2011, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeckyD@RodgersChevrolet

Saturday, October 29, 2011
2012 Camaro ZL1 Ordering open through Order Workbench’s Quick Order
Application (ZL1 ordering information will be available in Order Workbench’s traditional Order Configurator on Thursday, November 3, 2011)

Either I missed this or it's a change... Looks like full ordering doesn't start until Thursday, November 3rd... which makes WAY more sense than a Saturday. Not sure what "Quick Order Application" is... Seems it may be a few more days guys...

I'd still contact the dealer the 24th... again on the 29th and then see what you need to do on the 3rd... if anything!

Sorry missed this :(

1BADZL1 · 10-11-2011, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IROCanSS

Either I missed this or it's a change... Looks like full ordering doesn't start until Thursday, November 3rd... which makes WAY more sense than a Saturday. Not sure what "Quick Order Application" is... Seems it may be a few more days guys...

I'd still contact the dealer the 24th... again on the 29th and then see what you need to do on the 3rd... if anything!

Sorry missed this :(

No change here.

Evidently the difference is "Workbench’s Quick Order"
and "Workbench’s traditional Order Configurator"

Not knowing how GMs workbench works, but
the Oracle system that Im used to using you could order, but you would not be able to "configure" options until a given date. I am thinking this is probably very similar in that you may be able to "drop" a ZL1 order in, but it maybe have to be configured with options (colors, interior, wheels, sunroof etc) at a later date. That seems most likely to me anyway.
Maybe Becky will chime in to clear up the confusion because we are talking about the difference of 5 days here.

OldJedi · 10-11-2011, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IROCanSS

Either I missed this or it's a change... Looks like full ordering doesn't start until Thursday, November 3rd... which makes WAY more sense than a Saturday. Not sure what "Quick Order Application" is... Seems it may be a few more days guys...

I'd still contact the dealer the 24th... again on the 29th and then see what you need to do on the 3rd... if anything!

Sorry missed this :(

I copied the information on 09/09 when it was posted. The Nov. 03 date was on the information as posted above. So what is the actual ordering date, Oct. 29 or Nov. 03?

10-11-2011, 02:42 AM	#253
Drake Heminger Drives: 2014 Stingray Z51 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Stafford, VA Posts: 2,951	I think the ZL1 will sell less then what we all think... possibly round 47k i make this prediction off of the market of the Camaro... 2011 and 12 SS models went down 3 grand in MSRP than last year... this implicates a that the ZL1 market-wise wouldnt sell above 47k it just wouldnt make sense... especially with the economy... who else agrees?

10-11-2011, 08:31 AM	#258
cyrusthevirus Drives: 2009 chevy cobalt ss, 1989 Iroc-z Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: pa Posts: 75	i was looking at the zr1 from 2011 n its posted on there big chunk cut off from the pricing.. Even looking at the 2nd level vette that starts at 50 dropped her down to 44k !!! The camaro's are at 1500 cash back currently. Plus you can stack other deals, i have done this in the past/ example model 2011 Corvette type 2dr Cpe style Z16 Grand Sport w/1LT Exterior color Arctic White Interior color Ebony, Leather Seating Surfaces base msrp* $55,045 colors & options $2,890 delivery & handling $950 total msrp $58,885 supplier price $54,286 current offers -$3,000 Cash Allowance: Up to $3,000 cash back Net Price $51,286

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10-11-2011, 06:37 AM	#254
Blue Menace Drives: 2013 WRX Sedan Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 705	^^ no one. It's just not gonna happen.

10-11-2011, 06:42 AM	#255
IROCanSS Account Suspended Drives: 89 IROC 350 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Back roads, southern Ohio Posts: 12,504 View My Garage	Drake is on dope. Sorry man, zero chance this car is had less than 50k. Sorry. And how did the SS go down 3k?

10-11-2011, 08:16 AM	#256
cyrusthevirus Drives: 2009 chevy cobalt ss, 1989 Iroc-z Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: pa Posts: 75	i hope i can work with my suppliers discount on this. I want to try to get this for invoice or very close. Every car i bought i was able to pull it off so far...

10-11-2011, 08:21 AM	#257
IROCanSS Account Suspended Drives: 89 IROC 350 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Back roads, southern Ohio Posts: 12,504 View My Garage	Here is another little tid bit of information if you don't want to get taken for a ride... GM family/friends/supplier.... This is permitted on 99.9% of cars GM sells. In recent years when the Camaro was hot off the press, dealerships would tell unknowing customers "oh sorry, GM doesn't allow family/supplier discounts on the Camaro". This is a 100% LIE. It's up to the dealer if they CHOOSE to honor the discount. Only cars recently that GM disallows the discounts on were the ZR1 and CTS-V but I bet that's lifted now. GM may disallow the discount on the ZL1 at first but you can make your dealer show you proof. They (dealer) aren't obligated to honor the discount but they ARE OBLIGATED to be honest with you. I will find out from my dealer the skinny on it as soon as he knows...

10-11-2011, 08:37 AM	#259
IROCanSS Account Suspended Drives: 89 IROC 350 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Back roads, southern Ohio Posts: 12,504 View My Garage	True BUT there is much less allowance on a Camaro over a Corvette. It's not linear. Both under the "old" GMS system: My 2007 Corvette, MSRP $45,000, GMS $37,000 (17% off) My 2010 Camaro, MSRP $37,000, GMS $33,000 (11% off) Plus the system is new now, discounts are much less...

10-11-2011, 08:56 AM	#260
cyrusthevirus Drives: 2009 chevy cobalt ss, 1989 Iroc-z Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: pa Posts: 75	its a start if u cant get the dealer to come down

10-11-2011, 03:11 PM	#261
JEFF2010SSMANUAL JEFF2010SSMANUAL Drives: IOM 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Northern IL Posts: 1,953	I asked my cousin who is a manager at the Chevy dealer how many he is getting in. He said 2. He also said they would sell to TOP bider. $100k I bet. Dont get too excited unless you are able to order one from a dealer that will let it go for sticker. GOOD LUCK !!!!!!!

10-11-2011, 03:58 PM	#262
IROCanSS Account Suspended Drives: 89 IROC 350 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Back roads, southern Ohio Posts: 12,504 View My Garage	Well unless your cousin is Merlin, or has a crystal ball, he can't have that information bc it won't be released until the 24th but nice try. Are some of you even paying attention? Oct 24 - allocation consensus is released to dealer... This is when they find out how many and when. Oct 29 - workbook opens (orders officially taken)