Remote Start Available for the Manual Tranny?

[SilverTurtle]

Originally Posted by Robert91RS

It can if the computer knows to bypass the clutch pedal possition switch.

or if you bypass the clutch pedal position switch... which some people have done.

[GTAHVIT]

I really don't see the need for it. However it would be great to get the car running and the AC going in the hot nasty humid summer months around here. For me having the Manual is way more important that remote start. But I can see the cool factor....

[Rodrunner]

Originally Posted by TheClassicCarKid

What is the advantage of starting your car from 10 feet away over just getting in and starting it?
Unless it can drive itself to you James Bond style I don't see the point

Mine's not going to be an everyday driver, so there are going to be times when I want to run the engine to warm it and circulate the oil. And I was thinking it would be nice if I could just step into the garage, raise the door a few feet, and from there, push a button on the fob and start the car.
A necessity, no, but neither is remote entry or a host of other options.

[blazzin1]

Originally Posted by TheClassicCarKid

What is the advantage of starting your car from 10 feet away over just getting in and starting it?
Unless it can drive itself to you James Bond style I don't see the point

Well, for those of us who don't live in Southern Cali, believe it or not, it's gets cold outside!!! And at 5:00 am when you're getting dressed and ready for work, the remote start is very helpful when you don't want to run outside in freezing temps to warm up your car. And most remote start systems are quite effective from more than 10 feet away!! The system on my Wife's truck is capable of starting from about 500 feet away. So yes, it is very convenient.

[TheClassicCarKid]

Originally Posted by Rodrunner

Mine's not going to be an everyday driver, so there are going to be times when I want to run the engine to warm it and circulate the oil. And I was thinking it would be nice if I could just step into the garage, raise the door a few feet, and from there, push a button on the fob and start the car.
A necessity, no, but neither is remote entry or a host of other options.

Originally Posted by blazzin1

Well, for those of us who don't live in Southern Cali, believe it or not, it's gets cold outside!!! And at 5:00 am when you're getting dressed and ready for work, the remote start is very helpful when you don't want to run outside in freezing temps to warm up your car. And most remote start systems are quite effective from more than 10 feet away!! The system on my Wife's truck is capable of starting from about 500 feet away. So yes, it is very convenient.

Haha okay I see now. I guess Remote start would be a nice feature for cooling/heating and general convenience.
I guess you could go aftermarket, but like the posts above warn, don't forget to leave it in neutral

[Rodrunner]

Originally Posted by TheClassicCarKid

Haha okay I see now. I guess Remote start would be a nice feature for cooling/heating and general convenience.
I guess you could go aftermarket, but like the posts above warn, don't forget to leave it in neutral

You were quite right though, it is a lazy man's option. And the likelihood of it being available with a manual is evidently very remote- no pun -but if I stick with the auto it'll be real cool.

[MerF]

Disclaimer: I have owned two manuals that I had remote start on...I'm not saying it's not handy, but if you are not OCD like me and always leave the car the same way no matter what...then it can be stupid. I've personally watched two people accidentally start a manual in gear.

One of them was too funny to be left out. We were in his house playing Xbox or something and we kept hearing something like a horn outside and yelling. Finally we took a break to smoke and we finally noticed that his car was almost on top of the neighbor's car two house down. The remote was in his pocket and the start combination of buttons was being pressed and his car just meandered it's way down the block and ran repeatedly against the neighbor's car in it's driveway...setting off the neighbor's car alarm. Ironically noone was really concerned because people just ignore car alarms anymore. Cost my friend some money because obviously he settled without insurance being involved as it would be void anyway.

[StuMac]

Originally Posted by MerF

No manual car will ever have remote start from the factory. It's way too much liability.

Why is it too hard to have a system that puts the clutch in until you get in and push the 3rd pedal in to release it? It's a freekin cable, just get something to pull it, then start the car.

[MerF]

Originally Posted by StuMac

Why is it too hard to have a system that puts the clutch in until you get in and push the 3rd pedal in to release it? It's a freekin cable, just get something to pull it, then start the car.

Then you have the liability that the owner forgot to set the emergency brake to prevent it from rolling when the clutch is in.

[StuMac]

Originally Posted by MerF

Then you have the liability that the owner forgot to set the emergency brake to prevent it from rolling when the clutch is in.

There is that, I guess putting on the break is such a habit I forgot it's possible not everyone puts it on every time. I thought it was actually hard on the transmission to keep the car stationary by the engine alone.

[MerF]

Originally Posted by StuMac

There is that, I guess putting on the break is such a habit I forgot it's possible not everyone puts it on every time. I thought it was actually hard on the transmission to keep the car stationary by the engine alone.

Nah. It's the same transmission that you are accelerating the 3000 lbs car with, right? The only thing is there's no real braking there...the car is being held still be the engine's resistance alone. So once you get to a point that the weight of the car is pulling hard enough to overcome the engine's static resistance, the engine will turn over and the car will move.

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by TheClassicCarKid

What is the advantage of starting your car from 10 feet away over just getting in and starting it?
Unless it can drive itself to you James Bond style I don't see the point

I can start my car from 50 feet away with the remote from the factory. it is handy when it is like 10 degrees out and your are cosy and warm in your house or apartment and want to defrost your car before you go out.

It can be done on a manual, all they have to do is have the computer only be able to start the car remotely if the car is in neutral and the parking brake is set. or they can make a manual trans with a park setting where you put it in the P setting and it disengages the transmission from the engine but locks the gears in the transmission like the park setting on an automatic does. The park setting could have a lock out on it that allows it to only go into park when the engine is not running. there are already many lock outs that will not allow the car to start remotely on an automatic, if the car is not locked first and all the doors, hood and trunk/hatch have to be closed, if any of those are opened without using the remote, the vehicle will shut down. Also if you get in the car you have to put the key in and turn it to run before you can get the car out of park.
All of this is possible with a manual but it would drive up the cost of the transmission.

[CWI]

Originally Posted by Rodrunner

Mine's not going to be an everyday driver, so there are going to be times when I want to run the engine to warm it and circulate the oil. .

Most remote starting systems are programable, one of the options is to set it to start and run for a specified amount of time. That allows you to circulate the oil with out touching the car or even the keys. Kinda like setting your comuter or laptop to look for updates on a regular basis.
I've also had RS on my last three trucks and it is so nice to start it and let it warm up while you are getting dressed and eating breakfast. With RS you can defrost or melt snow off the windshield without touching an ice scraper.

[Rodrunner]

That's even better!! Sorta makes it the super lazy man's option....but I like it! Yet, since I've been leaning toward the manual trans. lately I'm not sure it's worth it.
You know I started this thread hoping to hear that the remote start was going to be available with the M6, but from the feedback here I don't think that's going to happen. Ah, decisions, decisions. Thanks!