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javi05 · 09-14-2014, 11:38 AM

i have run this 5.0 about 5-6 times with last night being the best. 60 roll i got him by a fender each time. one 60 roll he had me by a fender. imo both these cars are so close in power that its even.. i get him he gets me but never by much either.. so i dont know why people say the 5.0 beats up on the camaros stock vs stock i havent seen it yet.. both with manual trans. i know with a tune and headers he is done.. but him with tune and headers might just surprise me is what ive heard like i said havent seen that yet either... so imo the 5.0 and the 1le stock for stock is pretty much even in a str8 line.. lol.. road coarse.. yall know that out come lol....

Muscle Car Memories · 09-14-2014, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by javi05

i have run this 5.0 about 5-6 times with last night being the best. 60 roll i got him by a fender each time. one 60 roll he had me by a fender. imo both these cars are so close in power that its even.. i get him he gets me but never by much either.. so i dont know why people say the 5.0 beats up on the camaros stock vs stock i havent seen it yet.. both with manual trans. i know with a tune and headers he is done.. but him with tune and headers might just surprise me is what ive heard like i said havent seen that yet either... so imo the 5.0 and the 1le stock for stock is pretty much even in a str8 line.. lol.. road coarse.. yall know that out come lol....

Yep I think they are closer than people give the Camaro's credit for....As for the road course, the Mustang and Camaro wars are all about straight line and I bet $100 I will get flamed for that one...

javi05 · 09-14-2014, 11:47 AM

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Yep I think they are closer than people give the Camaro's credit for....As for the road course, the Mustang and Camaro wars are all about straight line and I bet $100 I will get flamed for that one...

yea i am a str8 line kinda guy also.. but i wouldnt mind a road course run one day.. everyone says its fun... something about the way the 5.0 shifts seems to lose some get up during shifting maybe its the driver but when he shifts a pull ahead.

Muscle Car Memories · 09-14-2014, 12:08 PM

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yea i am a str8 line kinda guy also.. but i wouldnt mind a road course run one day.. everyone says its fun... something about the way the 5.0 shifts seems to lose some get up during shifting maybe its the driver but when he shifts a pull ahead.

I love watching those Pro-Stock Camaro's in the NHRA but John Force has the funny cars sewed up with those Mustang's. I also like watcing the road racing with the Camaro's but my favorite is the 1320...

big hammer · 09-14-2014, 12:35 PM

that's impossibru the 5.0 can beat the Camaro by a 1\4 mile in the 1\8th mile. that's how fast it is.

SpeedIsLife · 09-14-2014, 01:03 PM

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I love watching those Pro-Stock Camaro's in the NHRA but John Force has the funny cars sewed up with those Mustang's. I also like watcing the road racing with the Camaro's but my favorite is the 1320...

The only thing "Mustang" about those Funny Cars are the graphics. 500ci Hemi 's do not a Mustang make.

Muscle Car Memories · 09-14-2014, 01:22 PM

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The only thing "Mustang" about those Funny Cars are the graphics. 500ci Hemi 's do not a Mustang make.

You have zero clue what your talking about.

They run a FORD 500 BOSS motor.....No Hemi.

SpeedIsLife · 09-14-2014, 02:15 PM

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You have zero clue what your talking about.

They run a FORD 500 BOSS motor.....No Hemi.

The Boss 500 motor is an evolution of the NHRA mandated design for a Top Fuel motor which is a derivative of a Hemi head architecture. The Boss 429 motor was a Hemi design also but Mopar has that name trademarked, so Ford called it the Blue Crescent, or shotgun motor.

The only thing genuinely made by Ford in that engine are the main bearing caps, otherwise it's a very massaged and warmed over version of a very old design.

That was not a knock on Ford engine design, the NHRA requires top fuel engines to be no more than 500 cubic inches and of a Hemi design. If you ever get a chance to see one of the Boss 500 Top Fuel motors with the valve covers off in the pits you will see the rocker arm and valve arrangement is a Hemi.

javi05 · 09-14-2014, 02:45 PM

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that's impossibru the 5.0 can beat the Camaro by a 1\4 mile in the 1\8th mile. that's how fast it is.

well i havent seen that yet... maybe its the driver.

Muscle Car Memories · 09-14-2014, 02:47 PM

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The Boss 500 motor is an evolution of the NHRA mandated design for a Top Fuel motor which is a derivative of a Hemi head architecture. The Boss 429 motor was a Hemi design also but Mopar has that name trademarked, so Ford called it the Blue Crescent, or shotgun motor.

The only thing genuinely made by Ford in that engine are the main bearing caps, otherwise it's a very massaged and warmed over version of a very old design.

That was not a knock on Ford engine design, the NHRA requires top fuel engines to be no more than 500 cubic inches and of a Hemi design. If you ever get a chance to see one of the Boss 500 Top Fuel motors with the valve covers off in the pits you will see the rocker arm and valve arrangement is a Hemi.

Mopar yes did indeed come up with the Hemi head design and your right about NHRA rules however Ford still uses their own engines even if it does have the "Hemi" head design that doesnt make it a Mopar. With thinking like yours, since Ford came to market with the 1st V8 does that mean that GM and Chrysler Corp copied Ford's V8....No it doesnt.

DSX_Camaro · 09-14-2014, 09:10 PM

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i have run this 5.0 about 5-6 times with last night being the best. 60 roll i got him by a fender each time. one 60 roll he had me by a fender. imo both these cars are so close in power that its even.. i get him he gets me but never by much either.. so i dont know why people say the 5.0 beats up on the camaros stock vs stock i havent seen it yet.. both with manual trans. i know with a tune and headers he is done.. but him with tune and headers might just surprise me is what ive heard like i said havent seen that yet either... so imo the 5.0 and the 1le stock for stock is pretty much even in a str8 line.. lol.. road coarse.. yall know that out come lol....

That right there is why. 1LE is a different animal than a regular SS. Pretty sure most of the non-1LE guys get miffed when a 1LE guy breaks 400whp without a cam (which, from what I've seen, happens a lot).

JackalopeZL1 · 09-14-2014, 09:26 PM

One thing that is hardly ever thrown into the figures.. He might suck as a driver and the car makes up the difference or vise versa.. At 60 that does even things up a bit though..

JackalopeZL1 · 09-14-2014, 09:28 PM

Hemispherical head design vs trade mark name is correct.. There are a Gazzilion Hemispherical engines out there that technically are not called Hemi's due to trade mark

DarkneSS · 09-15-2014, 07:07 PM

They are close, even closer with the 1LEs gears and lighter wheels. Equal drivers though and the 5.0 should pull about a car.

09-14-2014, 11:38 AM	#1
javi05 Drives: 14 ss 1le camaro Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: missouri city tx Posts: 175	14 c/s 5.0 vs 14ss 1le i have run this 5.0 about 5-6 times with last night being the best. 60 roll i got him by a fender each time. one 60 roll he had me by a fender. imo both these cars are so close in power that its even.. i get him he gets me but never by much either.. so i dont know why people say the 5.0 beats up on the camaros stock vs stock i havent seen it yet.. both with manual trans. i know with a tune and headers he is done.. but him with tune and headers might just surprise me is what ive heard like i said havent seen that yet either... so imo the 5.0 and the 1le stock for stock is pretty much even in a str8 line.. lol.. road coarse.. yall know that out come lol.... __________________ 2011 camaro L99 convert. totaled . 2014 camaro 2ss 1LE. blk on blk..stock

09-14-2014, 12:35 PM	#5
big hammer Drives: 2002 ws6 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: manitoba Posts: 1,202	that's impossibru the 5.0 can beat the Camaro by a 1\4 mile in the 1\8th mile. that's how fast it is. __________________ Bolt on 2002 ls1 Trans am--- 11.5 @ 121 (1.72) 2000 da

09-14-2014, 09:26 PM	#12
JackalopeZL1 Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 481	One thing that is hardly ever thrown into the figures.. He might suck as a driver and the car makes up the difference or vise versa.. At 60 that does even things up a bit though.. __________________ 2013 Silver ZL1

09-14-2014, 09:28 PM	#13
JackalopeZL1 Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 481	Hemispherical head design vs trade mark name is correct.. There are a Gazzilion Hemispherical engines out there that technically are not called Hemi's due to trade mark __________________ 2013 Silver ZL1

09-15-2014, 07:07 PM	#14
DarkneSS Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS 6MT Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Westchester, New York Posts: 3,715	They are close, even closer with the 1LEs gears and lighter wheels. Equal drivers though and the 5.0 should pull about a car.