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GretchenGotGrowl · 11-08-2013, 08:35 PM

Don't give up on the LLT. I know that sounds hypocritical coming from me, but think about this. We can tune the LFX, but what did we end up doing? When we ran out of fuel we added the supplemental fuel system. The tune is the same when we use the supplemental fuel as well as when we run just on the HPFP at lower boost. So, if you can get a good tune using the HPFP, then you can use a setup like mine to get more boost.

Here's how today went. We started out at 50% duty cycle on the turbos and just the HPFP. We kept upping the boost until we ran out of fuel that way, then we turned on the supplemental fuel and added boost until we got the AFR back to a good level. When we first turned it on at 60% duty cycle the AFR was 10.0. At 70% duty cycle it was 11.5 (still a little rich, but making good power). We made NO changes to the tune at all, just upped the boost. I don't see why you can't do that with the LLT, too.

hunterv6 · 11-08-2013, 08:45 PM

Well see what the winter brings as I am not able to build any more just yet. But Santa may bring a lfx for me to start over and a nicely mod used llt to my son.

Sent from my iPad2 on space mountain

911medic · 11-08-2013, 08:45 PM

Bravo, my man. Bra-freaking-vo!
I hope the drive train survives long enough for you to enjoy all that power/torque!

Macrackie · 11-08-2013, 10:04 PM

Hot damn. This is epic. Nice work.

grocerygetter · 11-08-2013, 10:04 PM

This car makes silly power. There was a pull that saw 800+torque when the snails lit off. Crazy. I still think a bigger AR would rock...but alas, u would have 4wd camaro....or Fred flintstone floor.

Macrackie · 11-08-2013, 10:06 PM

I would like to see you give up on the quarter mile (for the cars sake) and run a standing mile somewhere with this thing.

GretchenGotGrowl · 11-08-2013, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macrackie

I would like to see you give up on the quarter mile (for the cars sake) and run a standing mile somewhere with this thing.

Mile would be at least 10 times harder on the car than the 1/4th...it simply wouldn't last at these power levels.

GretchenGotGrowl · 11-08-2013, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grocerygetter

This car makes silly power. There was a pull that saw 800+torque when the snails lit off. Crazy. I still think a bigger AR would rock...but alas, u would have 4wd camaro....or Fred flintstone floor.

Yeah, it would be nice to see how far I can push it, but I just can't see cutting into the floor pan for a bigger a/r.

KeepItShut · 11-08-2013, 10:32 PM

Any expectations on what you'll run the 1/4 in? Not sure what other C5ers with similar power are running but I would guess you could get 11.5s (or better?) if she sticks

lscamaro · 11-08-2013, 10:40 PM

If it sticks its a deep 10s car.

HP Turbine · 11-09-2013, 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KeepItShut

Any expectations on what you'll run the 1/4 in? Not sure what other C5ers with similar power are running but I would guess you could get 11.5s (or better?) if she sticks

This car would fit in with the SS, FI, stock displacement fast list. It's just nuts.

JohnnyBfromPeoria · 11-09-2013, 06:36 AM

Here again, I'm glad I'm far, far away in AZ. I fear the Growl...and I'm not worthy!

Excellent, excellent results. Very happy for you.

John B.

Macrackie · 11-09-2013, 08:00 AM

I can't make out the rpm numbers on the graph. At what rpm did they start at. Or what are the graph incroments

I see a low 10's pass on the horizon.

I figured a standing mile would be easier on trans and crank only because you wouldn't be trying to launch so hard.

DwRed1LTV6 · 11-09-2013, 08:03 AM

Very nice numbers. . . . . .

I had to read back a few pages to
see the numbers. Holy cr.... was
what i said !

11-08-2013, 08:35 PM	#827
GretchenGotGrowl Drives: 11 F150 EB/13 Sonic RS/15 Z06 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 7,129 View My Garage	Don't give up on the LLT. I know that sounds hypocritical coming from me, but think about this. We can tune the LFX, but what did we end up doing? When we ran out of fuel we added the supplemental fuel system. The tune is the same when we use the supplemental fuel as well as when we run just on the HPFP at lower boost. So, if you can get a good tune using the HPFP, then you can use a setup like mine to get more boost. Here's how today went. We started out at 50% duty cycle on the turbos and just the HPFP. We kept upping the boost until we ran out of fuel that way, then we turned on the supplemental fuel and added boost until we got the AFR back to a good level. When we first turned it on at 60% duty cycle the AFR was 10.0. At 70% duty cycle it was 11.5 (still a little rich, but making good power). We made NO changes to the tune at all, just upped the boost. I don't see why you can't do that with the LLT, too. __________________ New Ride -- 2015 Z06 2LZ (stock) -- Journal Old Ride -- 2012 Camaro 2LT/RS (647 RWHP & 726 RWTQ) -- Build Thread

11-08-2013, 08:45 PM	#828
hunterv6 Always bet on Black Drives: 2011 turbo LS, 2012 f 150, Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Concord Nc Posts: 1,983	Well see what the winter brings as I am not able to build any more just yet. But Santa may bring a lfx for me to start over and a nicely mod used llt to my son. Sent from my iPad2 on space mountain __________________

11-08-2013, 08:45 PM	#829
911medic Drives: 2012 SIM 2LT/1970 Camaro Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Near Minneapolis, MN Posts: 1,578	Bravo, my man. Bra-freaking-vo! I hope the drive train survives long enough for you to enjoy all that power/torque! __________________ All bleeding stops eventually -- 2012 2LT Auto w/sunroof -- My journal thread Roto-Fab Intake & W/W Relocate Kit -- ADM Race Scoop -- Dynomax VT Axle-Back Exhaust -- Vitesse Throttle Controller RX Catch Can -- Drake Bowtie Delete -- JacFab Radio Face Cover -- LED Fog Lights -- LED Dome/Trunk/Plate Lights -- Gen5DIY Dash ABL -- Diode Dynamics Cupholder Lighting Wishlist: ACS T5 Splitter -- Hood Vent Mod -- Footwell/Door Pull/Homelink Button Lighting

11-08-2013, 10:04 PM	#831
grocerygetter instigator Drives: 2020 6.2 Trail Boss, 2022 XC90 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: 72034 Posts: 3,979 View My Garage	This car makes silly power. There was a pull that saw 800+torque when the snails lit off. Crazy. I still think a bigger AR would rock...but alas, u would have 4wd camaro....or Fred flintstone floor. __________________ -John S.

11-08-2013, 10:40 PM	#836
lscamaro Drives: 2011 CGM Camaro LS A6 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 10,305	If it sticks its a deep 10s car. __________________ Click Picture for Build Thread

11-08-2013, 10:04 PM	#830
Macrackie Drives: 2011 Camaro LS Stripper model Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: South Beloit IL Posts: 641	Hot damn. This is epic. Nice work.

11-08-2013, 10:06 PM	#832
Macrackie Drives: 2011 Camaro LS Stripper model Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: South Beloit IL Posts: 641	I would like to see you give up on the quarter mile (for the cars sake) and run a standing mile somewhere with this thing.

11-08-2013, 10:32 PM	#835
KeepItShut Drives: 2011 CGM 2LT/RS Join Date: May 2011 Location: Round Rock, TX Posts: 394	Any expectations on what you'll run the 1/4 in? Not sure what other C5ers with similar power are running but I would guess you could get 11.5s (or better?) if she sticks

11-09-2013, 06:36 AM	#838
JohnnyBfromPeoria Drives: 2012 LS M6, Black Join Date: May 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,045	Here again, I'm glad I'm far, far away in AZ. I fear the Growl...and I'm not worthy! Excellent, excellent results. Very happy for you. John B.

11-09-2013, 08:00 AM	#839
Macrackie Drives: 2011 Camaro LS Stripper model Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: South Beloit IL Posts: 641	I can't make out the rpm numbers on the graph. At what rpm did they start at. Or what are the graph incroments I see a low 10's pass on the horizon. I figured a standing mile would be easier on trans and crank only because you wouldn't be trying to launch so hard.

11-09-2013, 08:03 AM	#840
DwRed1LTV6 Drives: '11 VR 2LT HHr Join Date: May 2011 Location: Gateway to the West Posts: 2,721	Very nice numbers. . . . . . I had to read back a few pages to see the numbers. Holy cr.... was what i said ! __________________ 2011 Hhr Formerly known as Silver85IrocZ !!