E85 HP numbers - real or fake??

mschena98 · 07-31-2017, 06:42 AM

Hey guys, so I just installed e85, a cold air intake, and tune on my 2016 SS with an A8. The car had a baseline of 345 whp completely stock which is pretty surprising. I'm hoping this is just the dyno, as other cars that I have seen have baselined closer to 400 whp. After the mods, the car made 402whp/412wtq. If those numbers are right I gained over 50whp from just a tune, e85, and CAI. I was expecting more like 430whp but these gains are still great. What do you guys think? Is the dyno off or does my car just not make as much power as it should?

vince3 · 07-31-2017, 06:47 AM

Was it the same dyno? Also which kind of dyno and do you have the dyno sheet?

mschena98 · 07-31-2017, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by vince3

Was it the same dyno? Also which kind of dyno and do you have the dyno sheet?

I don't have the baseline dyno sheet but I can post up the sheet after the mods later today. It was the same dyno both times. I believe it was a Dynocom

parish8 · 07-31-2017, 06:57 AM

The gain seems about right.

iPODFAN11 · 07-31-2017, 07:10 AM

On the new 5.3 in the Silverado/Sierra, with no mods right from the factory, on E85 it makes about 20-30 more HP and around 50 lb.ft. more torque over the stock ratings on 87 Octane. Just from switching fuels. I believe the #s you got.

SSTony · 07-31-2017, 08:09 AM

The baseline seems really low

USAFS197 · 07-31-2017, 08:52 AM

I'll be that guy to spare you from someone else jumping on that high horse.

A dyno is just a tool. Don't get hung up on numbers. Every dyno reads differently, etc., etc.

Honestly, though, as hard as it is, don't get too caught up with the numbers themselves but, look at the overall gain you had. A baseline of 345 and going up to 402 is a solid gain regardless. If you're needing a shot of confidence, find a shop with a dynojet and have them run the car--the numbers might be more in line with what you're looking for.

Burly · 07-31-2017, 08:55 AM

50rwhp gain is pretty good. I wouldn't have expected that much.

BradfordCamaro · 07-31-2017, 09:22 AM

57HP. Almost 60HP....sounds good to me
My math for those mods going in would be
30 E85
20 Tune
10 CAI

You're good.

PRAY · 07-31-2017, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BradfordCamaro

57HP. Almost 60HP....sounds good to me
My math for those mods going in would be
30 E85
20 Tune
10 CAI

You're good.

I can agree with that synopsis. Especially being a summer time tune. You can mix the numbers up a couple here and there but the total seems right.

AndyUK · 07-31-2017, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SSTony

The baseline seems really low

It doesnt matter, dynos are just a tool to tell you what gain you made, he added 57hp which is a great gain from a few mods. If you take the SAE rating of 455hp then he's now running 512hp at the motor, which is again a great number.

If you want to end up with a high number you can take it to a dynojet and ask them to run stp, but it wont make the car any faster.

Ian SS · 07-31-2017, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradfordCamaro

57HP. Almost 60HP....sounds good to me
My math for those mods going in would be
30 E85
20 Tune
10 CAI

You're good.

Noooooooooope.

20 from a tune?

30 from just e85?

Realistically you're going to get about 10-15HP from just a tune and about 30 from e85 WITH A TUNE. I gained just shy of 20hp going from a 91 tune to a e85 tune, and I had supporting mods as well.

mschena98 · 07-31-2017, 10:59 AM

Thanks for the input guys. Even if the dyno numbers are low, the gains are still about right compared to what others have gotten so I can't complain lol

BradfordCamaro · 07-31-2017, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradfordCamaro

57HP. Almost 60HP....sounds good to me
My math for those mods going in would be
30 E85
20 Tune
10 CAI

Noooooooooope.
20 from a tune?
30 from just e85?
Realistically you're going to get about 10-15HP from just a tune and about 30 from e85 WITH A TUNE. I gained just shy of 20hp going from a 91 tune to a e85 tune, and I had supporting mods as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRAY

I can agree with that synopsis. Especially being a summer time tune. You can mix the numbers up a couple here and there but the total seems right.

You left out the above quote

07-31-2017, 06:42 AM	#1
mschena98 Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS, 1987 IROC-Z Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Rochester, MI Posts: 45	E85 HP numbers - real or fake?? Hey guys, so I just installed e85, a cold air intake, and tune on my 2016 SS with an A8. The car had a baseline of 345 whp completely stock which is pretty surprising. I'm hoping this is just the dyno, as other cars that I have seen have baselined closer to 400 whp. After the mods, the car made 402whp/412wtq. If those numbers are right I gained over 50whp from just a tune, e85, and CAI. I was expecting more like 430whp but these gains are still great. What do you guys think? Is the dyno off or does my car just not make as much power as it should?

07-31-2017, 06:47 AM	#2
vince3 Drives: Hyper Blue 16' M6 1ss Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Houston TX Posts: 194	Was it the same dyno? Also which kind of dyno and do you have the dyno sheet? __________________ MSD intake, Rotofab, 2" ARH headers with cats, E85 with EFI Tuning and Nitto 555R's. Best ET: 11.7@122mph

07-31-2017, 06:57 AM	#4
parish8 Drives: 17 SS a8 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: omaha Posts: 1,678	The gain seems about right. __________________ dropped a valve in the 6.2. now running a drop in rods and piston 5.3 best et 5.83@121 with the 5.3 http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=465472

07-31-2017, 08:09 AM	#6
SSTony Drives: SS Camaro Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Piscataway NJ Posts: 1,782 View My Garage	The baseline seems really low __________________

07-31-2017, 08:52 AM	#7
USAFS197 Drives: 2018 Audi TT RS Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Navarre, Florida Posts: 1,915	I'll be that guy to spare you from someone else jumping on that high horse. A dyno is just a tool. Don't get hung up on numbers. Every dyno reads differently, etc., etc. Honestly, though, as hard as it is, don't get too caught up with the numbers themselves but, look at the overall gain you had. A baseline of 345 and going up to 402 is a solid gain regardless. If you're needing a shot of confidence, find a shop with a dynojet and have them run the car--the numbers might be more in line with what you're looking for. __________________ 2018 Audi TT ▊RS 2.4X 0-60, 1.6X 60', 120+mph 1/8th, 4.XX 60-130, 150+mph traps on 255/35/18 R888R tires on the street (unprepped). 2019 Audi RS3 About as fast as the TT RS 2019 Camaro ZL1 1LE Sold 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Sold 2019 Corvette Z06 Sold 2021 Charger Hellcat Redeye Widebody Sold

07-31-2017, 08:55 AM	#8
Burly Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Spotsylvania, VA Posts: 724 View My Garage	50rwhp gain is pretty good. I wouldn't have expected that much.

07-31-2017, 09:22 AM	#9
BradfordCamaro SABIO Drives: 2016 CAMARO 1SS Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Bradford, ON Posts: 5,012	57HP. Almost 60HP....sounds good to me My math for those mods going in would be 30 E85 20 Tune 10 CAI You're good. __________________

07-31-2017, 10:59 AM	#13
mschena98 Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS, 1987 IROC-Z Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Rochester, MI Posts: 45	Thanks for the input guys. Even if the dyno numbers are low, the gains are still about right compared to what others have gotten so I can't complain lol

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