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V-6 H8R · 09-28-2012, 05:50 AM

the "guilty until proven innocent" thing just reinforces the OP point of view. easy on the old timers and hard on the newbies. kind of a forum bullying thing? I've seen it on other boards and forums. Too bad really.

The Stig · 09-28-2012, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by V-6 H8R

the "guilty until proven innocent" thing just reinforces the OP point of view. easy on the old timers and hard on the newbies. kind of a forum bullying thing? I've seen it on other boards and forums. Too bad really.

...........yea because off of your two posts and your username i can tell that you're not a troll.

Overflow · 09-28-2012, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by V-6 H8R

the "guilty until proven innocent" thing just reinforces the OP point of view. easy on the old timers and hard on the newbies. kind of a forum bullying thing? I've seen it on other boards and forums. Too bad really.

You pretty much just proved my point.

I'll use you for example. You only have 4 posts, and you're acting like you know everything about this forum. I can promise you I know more about how this forum than you since I've been around since 2009, and signed up in 2010.

It's not bullying. It's protecting the forum. That's all the moderators are doing. They're not out to make you guy feel like you're be bullied. It's just pretty easy to point out newbies that are trolls or trouble makers. Ahem. I think they're doing a great job.

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Originally Posted by stieger

...........yea because off of your two posts and your username i can tell that you're not a troll.

garcmol · 09-28-2012, 08:15 AM

When I started modding, I didn't have a plan and my mods began to look inconsistent. Then I came up with a pla......

wait, whut? Oh, nevermind

BowtieBelle · 09-28-2012, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by garcmol

When I started modding, I didn't have a plan and my mods began to look inconsistent. Then I came up with a pla......

wait, whut? Oh, nevermind

I was thinking of something like this with this thread title

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Originally Posted by V-6 H8R

the "guilty until proven innocent" thing just reinforces the OP point of view. easy on the old timers and hard on the newbies. kind of a forum bullying thing? I've seen it on other boards and forums. Too bad really.

Overflow · 09-28-2012, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by garcmol

When I started modding, I didn't have a plan and my mods began to look inconsistent. Then I came up with a pla......

wait, whut? Oh, nevermind

FenwickHockey65 · 09-28-2012, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by V-6 H8R

the "guilty until proven innocent" thing just reinforces the OP point of view. easy on the old timers and hard on the newbies. kind of a forum bullying thing? I've seen it on other boards and forums. Too bad really.

It's not bullying. Someone who has over 10,000 posts obviously hasn't caused too much trouble, or they would've been kicked long ago. On the other hand, mods are going to be more suspicious of someone who just signed up with a handful of posts simply because they don't know you well enough yet.

Think of it this way: Who would you be more comfortable with taking care of your kids? Some random guy you just met on the street, or a family friend you've known for years?

*DGthe3* · 09-28-2012, 07:26 PM

I'm wondering how the OP knows who is getting banned for what. We do not share that info. Usually, if someone posts something that warrants a ban it gets deleted, and even if it doesn't, there are no indicators that show someone got infracted for making it.

The only person other than site staff that would know is the one who got banned. And in my experience, these folks can't be relied upon to tell the whole truth. So perhaps they get banned & its seemingly for one little comment they made. However, what they fail to mention is the previous infractions they've received for that same behaviour or the PMs that mods have sent them telling them to knock it off or even the public reminders that the staff make, reminding people to tone it down or risk infractions. And all that is assuming that they're even telling a partial truth. Its pretty easy to say 'they banned me for nothing' when in reality, it would be self evident to practically anyone else why they were banned.

Now that thats out of the way, if you see something that you think we should act upon report it (

),imple as that. We will review the post, and act accordingly. This might be a deletion of the post, banning the member, making a public warning, sending a private message, issuing a warning, making a note to watch their behaviour, or doing nothing at all. Just keep in mind that even if you don't see any action taken doesn't mean we haven't done anything.

V-6 H8R · 09-29-2012, 01:24 AM

The above post is the most reasonable one I've read on this thread. Yes, I'm new to this site as far as posting goes but I have been reading posts here for over a year and have watched when guys get suspended for something i felt wasnt too bad and others get a pass for terrible language, pictures of people urinating or worse and others talking political trash all the time. Either the rules get followed by everyone or no one. I recently decided to actually participate so I registered. I thing if reasonable people read many of the replies in this thread they would agree that newbies are not warmly welcomed if they post something that's not within the kook aid way of thinking even if the are not swearing, being lude or mean. Even one of the mods was mean in this thread and calling me names. Heck, I've not called anyone a bad name like I've seen here. Just seems like double standards and a clique with certain members. Maybe that's by design but it just doesn't seem right or nice for a public forum.

Mantisfan · 09-29-2012, 04:48 AM

Thanks to all for their posts. It has given me some insight that I did not have before. But I must say that many of these posts do suggest that this is a Facebook type "forum of friends" place. Like others I don't have a lot of free time and I glance at forum items. I've been doing that for almost 2 years. Then when I finally got around to writing some comments I am immediately thought of as some rookie. Well I've rebuilt a number of engines and gearboxes over the years and know plenty about cars but because I don't post too much I get patronized by members who think I'm a nut. I also read two threads recently (cholos and cafe standards) where a lot of bad language and demeaning comments were made. I also saw where a guy was suspended because it all of a sudden came on the site. But others who were really bad got a pass. So there I've said my peace and will stop. My point is that there are tens of thousands of folks on this site. Who cares if you "know" them or if they are only occasional users. They should be treated the same as those who have loads of free time and comment daily. Why chase people away? It's more about old timer's ego than real oversight from my observations.

Overflow · 09-29-2012, 09:30 AM

Dang I never saw that cholo thread, but now I'm glad I didn't.

Moderator1 · 09-29-2012, 12:52 PM

As proven by an IP address search, the OP and a 2nd member in this thread are one in the same. The OP's third account is temporarily suspended and should he/she continue to violate site rules, will also be permanently suspended.

This is not a question of treating new members differently than members who have been here longer. It is a matter of previously suspended members re-joining the site and continuing in their unwelcome ways.

While Moderators attempt to enforce site rules accordingly, discretion will naturally come into play.

All we ask is that members adhere to the site rules and the subject matter of how site rules are enforced upon you will not be a question.

09-28-2012, 08:15 AM	#18
garcmol Drives: 10 1LT SIM; 91 B4C sleeper Z Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ft. Mitchell, Alabama Posts: 7,199	When I started modding, I didn't have a plan and my mods began to look inconsistent. Then I came up with a pla...... wait, whut? Oh, nevermind __________________ Pedders Pace Car Package, Injen CAI, Flowmaster AT, AAC Lighting, ZL1 fascia/skirts, RKSport Ram Air hood, vented fenders, painted stripes (Gary's Customz), Honor and Valor badged (Thank you, John)

09-28-2012, 07:26 PM	#22
DGthe3 Moderator.ca Drives: 05 Grand Am GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 25,372	I'm wondering how the OP knows who is getting banned for what. We do not share that info. Usually, if someone posts something that warrants a ban it gets deleted, and even if it doesn't, there are no indicators that show someone got infracted for making it. The only person other than site staff that would know is the one who got banned. And in my experience, these folks can't be relied upon to tell the whole truth. So perhaps they get banned & its seemingly for one little comment they made. However, what they fail to mention is the previous infractions they've received for that same behaviour or the PMs that mods have sent them telling them to knock it off or even the public reminders that the staff make, reminding people to tone it down or risk infractions. And all that is assuming that they're even telling a partial truth. Its pretty easy to say 'they banned me for nothing' when in reality, it would be self evident to practically anyone else why they were banned. Now that thats out of the way, if you see something that you think we should act upon report it (),imple as that. We will review the post, and act accordingly. This might be a deletion of the post, banning the member, making a public warning, sending a private message, issuing a warning, making a note to watch their behaviour, or doing nothing at all. Just keep in mind that even if you don't see any action taken doesn't mean we haven't done anything. __________________ Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them __________________ Originally Posted by FbodFather My sister's dentist's brother's cousin's housekeeper's dog-breeder's nephew sells coffee filters to the company that provides coffee to General Motors...... ........and HE WOULD KNOW!!!! __________________ Camaro Fest sub-forum

09-29-2012, 09:30 AM	#25
Overflow Space Shuttle Aficionado Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 30,899 View My Garage	Dang I never saw that cholo thread, but now I'm glad I didn't. __________________

09-28-2012, 05:50 AM	#15
V-6 H8R Banned Drives: lt Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 5	the "guilty until proven innocent" thing just reinforces the OP point of view. easy on the old timers and hard on the newbies. kind of a forum bullying thing? I've seen it on other boards and forums. Too bad really.

09-29-2012, 01:24 AM	#23
V-6 H8R Banned Drives: lt Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 5	The above post is the most reasonable one I've read on this thread. Yes, I'm new to this site as far as posting goes but I have been reading posts here for over a year and have watched when guys get suspended for something i felt wasnt too bad and others get a pass for terrible language, pictures of people urinating or worse and others talking political trash all the time. Either the rules get followed by everyone or no one. I recently decided to actually participate so I registered. I thing if reasonable people read many of the replies in this thread they would agree that newbies are not warmly welcomed if they post something that's not within the kook aid way of thinking even if the are not swearing, being lude or mean. Even one of the mods was mean in this thread and calling me names. Heck, I've not called anyone a bad name like I've seen here. Just seems like double standards and a clique with certain members. Maybe that's by design but it just doesn't seem right or nice for a public forum.

09-29-2012, 04:48 AM	#24
Mantisfan Banned Drives: 2011 LT Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Seattle Posts: 22	Thanks to all for their posts. It has given me some insight that I did not have before. But I must say that many of these posts do suggest that this is a Facebook type "forum of friends" place. Like others I don't have a lot of free time and I glance at forum items. I've been doing that for almost 2 years. Then when I finally got around to writing some comments I am immediately thought of as some rookie. Well I've rebuilt a number of engines and gearboxes over the years and know plenty about cars but because I don't post too much I get patronized by members who think I'm a nut. I also read two threads recently (cholos and cafe standards) where a lot of bad language and demeaning comments were made. I also saw where a guy was suspended because it all of a sudden came on the site. But others who were really bad got a pass. So there I've said my peace and will stop. My point is that there are tens of thousands of folks on this site. Who cares if you "know" them or if they are only occasional users. They should be treated the same as those who have loads of free time and comment daily. Why chase people away? It's more about old timer's ego than real oversight from my observations.

09-29-2012, 12:52 PM	#26
Moderator1 Moderator Drives: Camaro Join Date: May 2012 Location: Camaro5 Posts: 38	As proven by an IP address search, the OP and a 2nd member in this thread are one in the same. The OP's third account is temporarily suspended and should he/she continue to violate site rules, will also be permanently suspended. This is not a question of treating new members differently than members who have been here longer. It is a matter of previously suspended members re-joining the site and continuing in their unwelcome ways. While Moderators attempt to enforce site rules accordingly, discretion will naturally come into play. All we ask is that members adhere to the site rules and the subject matter of how site rules are enforced upon you will not be a question.