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Bad@ssCamaro · 03-28-2013, 03:01 AM

Since we have estimates on what the price range will be , what do you think that GM should do? Limit the production run to say, 2000 units per year, or like the ZL1, as many as they can produce/ordered - which then it would not be a limited production car. I think it will be in the same regards as the ZL1, only that with the predicted price range, it might not have as much of a demand.

The LS7 engine is said to have limited availability since it is a hand-built engine, but GM has not announced what and how many are available to put into the Z/28, at least to my knowledge, and this will have an impact on the amount that they will produce. Let's open the discussion and let's try not to get too far off topic.

flht99b · 03-28-2013, 05:44 AM

At approximately 150 LS7 engines built in a week equates to 7500 LS7 engines in a year so it's possible there could be approximately 7500 Z/28's built per year. That's slightly more than 2 cars per dealer in the USA ( 3084 USA Chevy dealers ). Frankly I doubt there will be a demand for that many. Only the very well heeled will purchase this car, someone who can afford to purchase teh car and park it in their collection. It will be near $65K plus options plus GG tax PLUS the big one, dealer mark up. I don't see any of these cars selling for less than 80K. And I bet the lion share of them will never see the street let alone a race track, they are going to become garage queens unfortunately.
Ed M.

Bad@ssCamaro · 03-28-2013, 04:06 PM

GM is capable of producing a good amount of vehicles if they so desire, but the question remains, will they? I would agree that a majority of buyers will see limited track time with them, but there will be those that have the deep enough pockets and the desire to race that will get the most attention in the first year or so. I'm sure there will be plenty of youtube video's on the car after it is released and sold to the public. These are exciting times for car enthusiasts, especially for GM fans.

LOWDOWN · 03-28-2013, 09:03 PM

Well, just like it took about 9 months to ramp up ZL1 production, they are allowing themselves a similar timeline for this one ("Available Spring '14", as per brochure). And recall there was a backlog, initially, and much moanin' and groanin' over ZL1 production/distribution.

Pricing will separate the serious from the wishful, and my sense is fewer Z/28s will arrive @ Anytown Chevrolet than were/are ZL1s...

motorhead · 03-28-2013, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Well, just like it took about 9 months to ramp up ZL1 production, they are allowing themselves a similar timeline for this one ("Available Spring '14", as per brochure). And recall there was a backlog, initially, and much moanin' and groanin' over ZL1 production/distribution.

Pricing will separate the serious from the wishful, and my sense is fewer Z/28s will arrive @ Anytown Chevrolet than were/are ZL1s...

The reveal said that is wasn't coming until the fall of this year, and too that it does sound like it will be built in limited numbers. It's been stressed by many of the high ups that this car isn't for everybody. So that tells me that they won't be building many.

Gibroni · 03-28-2013, 09:14 PM

We have to see how soon GM decides to put the LS7 into the new Corvette. The Z/28 is intended to be, as the original Z/28 was intended to be, a weekend racer that could be driven on the street. I see the ZL1 as a daily driver unlike the Z/28. Initially the Z/28 will sell to collectors but then taper off to those who want it for autocrossing on the weekend. It's a specialty car. I also think the price will fall right in between a 2SS and the ZL1.

LOWDOWN · 03-28-2013, 09:18 PM

There's a discrepancy in the Press Release...in several areas...but the brochure is "hard copy", proofed...and believeable...as per the ZL1 experience. The ZL1, from reveal at Chicago to initial shipping (before QC delay), was almost a year to the day.

OldScoolCamaro · 03-28-2013, 09:25 PM

...ok my sarcastic head rears itself once again. What will be harder to obtain? A 2014 Spring availabilty 2014 Z/28 with a handbulit Bowling Green LS7 motor, or a set of hens teeth?

LOWDOWN · 03-28-2013, 09:31 PM

...yes...

2cnd chance · 03-28-2013, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Gibroni

We have to see how soon GM decides to put the LS7 into the new Corvette. The Z/28 is intended to be, as the original Z/28 was intended to be, a weekend racer that could be driven on the street. I see the ZL1 as a daily driver unlike the Z/28. Initially the Z/28 will sell to collectors but then taper off to those who want it for autocrossing on the weekend. It's a specialty car. I also think the price will fall right in between a 2SS and the ZL1.

There will be no LS7 in the C7. The Z28 will be the priciest of Camaro's.

I think that anyone that wants and can buy one will be able to get one (but not on day1).

14pilot · 03-28-2013, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flht99b

At approximately 150 LS7 engines built in a week equates to 7500 LS7 engines in a year so it's possible there could be approximately 7500 Z/28's built per year. That's slightly more than 2 cars per dealer in the USA ( 3084 USA Chevy dealers ). Frankly I doubt there will be a demand for that many. Only the very well heeled will purchase this car, someone who can afford to purchase teh car and park it in their collection. It will be near $65K plus options plus GG tax PLUS the big one, dealer mark up. I don't see any of these cars selling for less than 80K. And I bet the lion share of them will never see the street let alone a race track, they are going to become garage queens unfortunately.
Ed M.

^^^ THIS IS CORRECT ^^^

Hand built engine restricts production. The demand for an $80K Camaro will be limited. I'll take a stab and guess total 2014 Z/28 production will be less than 4,000 units.

OldScoolCamaro · 03-28-2013, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

...yes...

OldScoolCamaro · 03-28-2013, 10:14 PM

...all LS motors are dead and gone for 2014 'Vettes. Now, we get the leftovers. Sometimes, it's good to be the scavenger...

Hylton · 03-28-2013, 10:33 PM

Hey Lowdown! Guess Al read your email to have that LS7 held over for an extra year or two huh?

03-28-2013, 03:01 AM	#1
Bad@ssCamaro BeckyD Rocks :-) Drives: 2015 1SS/1LE Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: CT Posts: 5,778 View My Garage	Z/28 - Limited Production Run or as many orders as they can fill? Since we have estimates on what the price range will be , what do you think that GM should do? Limit the production run to say, 2000 units per year, or like the ZL1, as many as they can produce/ordered - which then it would not be a limited production car. I think it will be in the same regards as the ZL1, only that with the predicted price range, it might not have as much of a demand. The LS7 engine is said to have limited availability since it is a hand-built engine, but GM has not announced what and how many are available to put into the Z/28, at least to my knowledge, and this will have an impact on the amount that they will produce. Let's open the discussion and let's try not to get too far off topic. __________________ 2015 CRT 1SS/1LE RS/Recaro's/NPP/Nav/Rear vision pkg./BA speaker upgrade. Stage 3 BMR cam, ARH 1 7/8 headers, CAI, BMR 1.25 drop springs, JPSS Billet Bushings, Peddars Cradle Bushings...460 whp...so far....SOLD, but not forgotten! Last edited by Bad@ssCamaro; 03-28-2013 at 05:15 AM.

03-28-2013, 05:44 AM	#2
flht99b Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS RJT Join Date: May 2009 Location: Knoxville Posts: 1,574 View My Garage	At approximately 150 LS7 engines built in a week equates to 7500 LS7 engines in a year so it's possible there could be approximately 7500 Z/28's built per year. That's slightly more than 2 cars per dealer in the USA ( 3084 USA Chevy dealers ). Frankly I doubt there will be a demand for that many. Only the very well heeled will purchase this car, someone who can afford to purchase teh car and park it in their collection. It will be near $65K plus options plus GG tax PLUS the big one, dealer mark up. I don't see any of these cars selling for less than 80K. And I bet the lion share of them will never see the street let alone a race track, they are going to become garage queens unfortunately. Ed M. __________________ RJT 2SS/RS, AAM 3.70's, MTI Sway Bars, Shifter & SS brake lines, ZLI calipers, rotors & pads, BMR Trailing & Toe Arms, rear cradle & diff bushes, Pedders XA's, Camber/Toe eccentrics, Radius arm inserts, GTO clutch reservoir, LS9 cam, Comp valve springs, Melling 10296 oil pump, CR5 timing chain, LS6 damper, CAI Cold Air Intake, ARH LT headers w/HF cats, GMPP touring axle back, Elite Engineering Catch Can, Forgeline 20x9.5 & 20x11 DS3 whls, 275/40/20 & 315/35/20 tires, 2011 Convertible spoiler, 1LE front spoiler, Lloyd "SS" Floor Mats, GM Camaro Trunk Mat, wrapped console & Grant steering wheel.

03-28-2013, 04:06 PM	#3
Bad@ssCamaro BeckyD Rocks :-) Drives: 2015 1SS/1LE Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: CT Posts: 5,778 View My Garage	GM is capable of producing a good amount of vehicles if they so desire, but the question remains, will they? I would agree that a majority of buyers will see limited track time with them, but there will be those that have the deep enough pockets and the desire to race that will get the most attention in the first year or so. I'm sure there will be plenty of youtube video's on the car after it is released and sold to the public. These are exciting times for car enthusiasts, especially for GM fans. __________________ 2015 CRT 1SS/1LE RS/Recaro's/NPP/Nav/Rear vision pkg./BA speaker upgrade. Stage 3 BMR cam, ARH 1 7/8 headers, CAI, BMR 1.25 drop springs, JPSS Billet Bushings, Peddars Cradle Bushings...460 whp...so far....SOLD, but not forgotten!

03-28-2013, 09:25 PM	#8
OldScoolCamaro Drives: Camaro's, always have, always will. Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Home of the brave Posts: 4,851	...ok my sarcastic head rears itself once again. What will be harder to obtain? A 2014 Spring availabilty 2014 Z/28 with a handbulit Bowling Green LS7 motor, or a set of hens teeth? __________________ In Scott We Trust...all others must show proof.

03-28-2013, 10:14 PM	#13
OldScoolCamaro Drives: Camaro's, always have, always will. Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Home of the brave Posts: 4,851	...all LS motors are dead and gone for 2014 'Vettes. Now, we get the leftovers. Sometimes, it's good to be the scavenger... __________________ In Scott We Trust...all others must show proof.

03-28-2013, 09:03 PM	#4
LOWDOWN Downright Upright Drives: Daily Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Cruisin'... Posts: 4,145	Well, just like it took about 9 months to ramp up ZL1 production, they are allowing themselves a similar timeline for this one ("Available Spring '14", as per brochure). And recall there was a backlog, initially, and much moanin' and groanin' over ZL1 production/distribution. Pricing will separate the serious from the wishful, and my sense is fewer Z/28s will arrive @ Anytown Chevrolet than were/are ZL1s...

03-28-2013, 09:14 PM	#6
Gibroni Drives: '12 IOM LT 'vert Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NEPA Posts: 646	We have to see how soon GM decides to put the LS7 into the new Corvette. The Z/28 is intended to be, as the original Z/28 was intended to be, a weekend racer that could be driven on the street. I see the ZL1 as a daily driver unlike the Z/28. Initially the Z/28 will sell to collectors but then taper off to those who want it for autocrossing on the weekend. It's a specialty car. I also think the price will fall right in between a 2SS and the ZL1.

03-28-2013, 09:18 PM	#7
LOWDOWN Downright Upright Drives: Daily Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Cruisin'... Posts: 4,145	There's a discrepancy in the Press Release...in several areas...but the brochure is "hard copy", proofed...and believeable...as per the ZL1 experience. The ZL1, from reveal at Chicago to initial shipping (before QC delay), was almost a year to the day.

03-28-2013, 09:31 PM	#9
LOWDOWN Downright Upright Drives: Daily Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Cruisin'... Posts: 4,145	...yes...

03-28-2013, 10:33 PM	#14
Hylton Drives: fanboys and ass kissers crazy. Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 7,280	Hey Lowdown! Guess Al read your email to have that LS7 held over for an extra year or two huh? __________________ "BBOMG - More than just a car show.... It's an experience!"