01-05-2012, 01:55 AM | #239 |
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Thanks. No you didn't miss the video; I have the footage in my computer, just need to edit it and figure out how to post it lol. I'm afraid if I put a price next to each of the components on that list I'll realize what I've spent on this car and basically ignorance is bliss
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I'm trying to upload a video of the "before" dyno run.... hopefully I figured this out correctly. This was recorded with my Canon S90 still camera.
This is the "after" run. This was recorded with my iPhone4.
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01-10-2012, 05:58 PM | #241 |
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Sounding real good. Its funny you got a Mantic clutch because I just did also from ECS but I got the ER2 single disk. I just finished the break in and it has gotten better. At first I was worried, it chattered a bit but that seems to have gone away and if I didn't dam near pop the clutch taking off every time it stunk real bad like I had been riding it out and burning it, but that too has mostly gone away. But the one thing that hasn't gone away is a bit of a grinding sound when it is in neutral. With my nowhere near scientific digital bath scale it says the single is about 8 lbs lighter. That 8 lbs also made a difference with take off, it was harder to get a smooth takeoff. But I learned that this can be adjusted with the tune, I didn't know that, and now is much better at takeoff. I also found out that the clutches come with throw out bearings but for a Vette not us Camaro guys. Would have been nice for ECS to let us know of that. i just reused my stock one.
Anyway great sounding and looking car, good job.
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01-10-2012, 08:02 PM | #242 |
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Man you're about right there with a stock C6Z! I did 3162/440 = 7.18-1 P/W ratio. I'd rather have your car than a new C6Z too! I'd still have four seats and a muscle car, not sport/super car. Don't think I don't like sport cars either, I'm just all to the bone muscle guy!
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01-10-2012, 08:40 PM | #243 |
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Looking and sounding terrific !! That Mantic clutch is awesome... ( nice case too - a very complete kit) Thanks for documenting all weight savings, cam change info and power to weight ratios. All very cool and helpful stuff for so many... |
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If you could drive my car compared to a stock one you'd be amazed at the difference; and not just in the power, but how it responds. I looked at all the clutches and flywheels I could find out there and I chose the Mantic because of their design, philosophy of design, and the fact their flywheel/clutch combo is SFI certified. A lot of lighter flywheels aren't; especially aluminum ones. It was more expensive than some and not as expensive as others, but so far I'm VERY impressed with it. I'm still in the break-in period but already it's clearly superior to the stock setup.
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01-12-2012, 08:19 PM | #246 |
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Took the car to the gas station today, filled it up completely and took it to a truck scale to weigh it. To my delight (and great surprise) the weight wasn't 3,718 lbs as I was expecting, it was 3,680 lbs!
Since it weighed 3,740 the last time I went there, and the only things I've done to it since then is the recent replacement of the flywheel, clutch and cam, and I know the flywheel/clutch combo is only 22 lbs lighter than the stock setup... that means the new cam must weigh 38 lbs less than the stock cam. This is something I hadn't even thought of; I just assumed the cams would weigh the same. The new Comp Cams replacement included new valve springs, retainers and cam gears too so the new weight means it's 19 lbs lighter than the stock cam, springs, retainers and gear. Going from 3,740 to 3,680 means 60 lbs of weight was removed from the engine when I did this upgrade which is great because not only is it rotating weight, it's also front-of-car weight which will help improve the weight balance front/rear. I'm going to have to weigh the old cam just to get a number but this was a great (and welcome) surprise! My overall project goal had been to get the car's static weight down to 3,700 and I'm now under that by 20 lbs. With the new actual weight of 3,680 lbs my power to weight ratio is P/W = 3,680/468 =7.86. And that's with a full tank of gas. This means if I'm running with a 1/4 tank of fuel (as I would at the drag strip) which removes 84 lbs of fuel weight, my car (without me in it) weighs 3,596 lbs. That's a P/W of 7.68 which is not too shabby.
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01-14-2012, 10:23 PM | #251 |
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Certified truck scales have to be accurate but I'm not sure what the margin for error is on those. The difference you noticed is less than 1%.
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01-21-2012, 11:15 AM | #252 | |
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Here's a clip of a few laps at Firebird Raceway west track in Chandler, Arizona at the C5Fest 2 in April of last year. The lead orange car in front has 700 rwhp, I had 405 rwhp. He clearly had the advantage on the straights but I had a weight advantage (by several hundred pounds) and a braking and handling advantage. I don't know what the 2nd car (black with orange stripes) had but I think he was supercharged too. I got faster as I got familiar with the track and was able to use the braking and handling advantage I had to good effect. After only a few laps we'd caught the back of the pack.
I put a heavy audio filter on the clip to reduce the wind noise which was considerable. I used a GoPro cam that was attached to the top of the windshield. Lots of fun.
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