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Vader2011v6 · 09-23-2013, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MagnumForceGB

Mace, for the 3rd time. First 2 manifolds the filling came out and got stuck in a runner. This 3rd one is made purely for forced induction and should hold up.

That will be nice. Can't wait to see the results.Will it be available for other FI v6ers to attain? I've been wondering what mod to do next after my gears.

spyderbuddy · 09-23-2013, 05:36 PM

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Sikoriko · 09-23-2013, 05:48 PM

Well anything new? how is that new tune doing you?

MagnumForceGB · 09-23-2013, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Vader2011v6

That will be nice. Can't wait to see the results.Will it be available for other FI v6ers to attain? I've been wondering what mod to do next after my gears.

Should be, wwould just need to contact MACE company.

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Originally Posted by Sikoriko

Well anything new? how is that new tune doing you?

Still attempts to stall while coming to a stop, but feels like its better. The car pulls pretty good, still waiting on my intake though before I dyno or race it.

MagnumForceGB · 09-27-2013, 06:11 PM

May have found out why the Mustang can't get going in first gear. We did a datalog with the SCT X3 tuner and the AFR from 1000 to 3500 RPM's are lean, then at 3500 RPM's the AFR goes to 12:1 and that's when the car finally takes off. I sent the log to BAMA and hopefully they will fix it.

Still waiting on the intake manifold which was supposedly sent last week. Been 5 weeks since I sent it back.

MagnumForceGB · 10-10-2013, 12:58 PM

Got bored and decided to do a dyno run today. Did 3 pulls, but the first pull didn't have the RPM reading right. The operator said the car looks like its pulling a lot of timing so I'm going to see what Arno can do. He did managed to get all the way to 7200 RPM's though.

During the 2nd run (the one I recorded) a puff of black smoke came out of the exhaust near the top end, hopefully it was just some oil that made its way through.

GretchenGotGrowl · 10-10-2013, 01:08 PM

Black smoke is usually fuel. However, you look like you are going lean at the end so I wouldn't think that was it (unless it came after he let off). You do look like it is pulling timing from how jagged it is, but it could also be the tach sensor not getting a good signal.

Ventmaster · 10-10-2013, 01:16 PM

When the ECM senses the lean condition, it pulls timing and dumps in fuel causing the black smoke as well.

Engine sounds strong and running well!

MagnumForceGB · 10-10-2013, 01:18 PM

Yeah, think I brain farted, white smoke is oil. Could bad gas also cause the timing to be pulled?

GretchenGotGrowl · 10-10-2013, 01:22 PM

Yeah, bad gas can do it.

MagnumForceGB · 10-10-2013, 01:26 PM

Will try to go next time after I put 104 octane in it from the track. Should be going back soon, I ordered 3.73 gears for my wife's Mustang so she can make Camaro boys cry.

Car does sound damn good on the dyno, felt like the ground was vibrating near the end of the run. Just hate having these small issues, if only we had a better ECU.

Sikoriko · 10-10-2013, 02:00 PM

I wounder if the LT headers HC cats have anything to do the the much timing advance? agree the black smoke is fuel.

MagnumForceGB · 10-10-2013, 03:06 PM

Talked to Arno and he said more than likely it was the intercooler being too hot from not enough air in front of the car and the engine pulling timing and running rich to save itself from destruction. Will see how the car does on the track, that should be a better test.

Think I'm also the first to get the RPM's into the 7200 RPM range on the dyno graph.

KMPrenger · 10-10-2013, 03:53 PM

That comes out to about 400HP and 350TQ at the crank which isn't bad, but I'd expect to see a bit more out of her considering the higher numbers we've seen from other IPF cars.

Maybe it was heat, or maybe something else who knows, but hopefully she runs great at the track where it counts!

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09-27-2013, 06:11 PM	#341
MagnumForceGB Drives: Fastest 2010 Camaro V6 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Newcastle, OK Posts: 3,571 View My Garage	May have found out why the Mustang can't get going in first gear. We did a datalog with the SCT X3 tuner and the AFR from 1000 to 3500 RPM's are lean, then at 3500 RPM's the AFR goes to 12:1 and that's when the car finally takes off. I sent the log to BAMA and hopefully they will fix it. Still waiting on the intake manifold which was supposedly sent last week. Been 5 weeks since I sent it back. Attached Images __________________ Camaro V6 = 11.268 @ 120.11

10-10-2013, 12:58 PM	#342
MagnumForceGB Drives: Fastest 2010 Camaro V6 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Newcastle, OK Posts: 3,571 View My Garage	Got bored and decided to do a dyno run today. Did 3 pulls, but the first pull didn't have the RPM reading right. The operator said the car looks like its pulling a lot of timing so I'm going to see what Arno can do. He did managed to get all the way to 7200 RPM's though. During the 2nd run (the one I recorded) a puff of black smoke came out of the exhaust near the top end, hopefully it was just some oil that made its way through. Attached Images __________________ Camaro V6 = 11.268 @ 120.11

10-10-2013, 01:08 PM	#343
GretchenGotGrowl Drives: 11 F150 EB/13 Sonic RS/15 Z06 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 7,129 View My Garage	Black smoke is usually fuel. However, you look like you are going lean at the end so I wouldn't think that was it (unless it came after he let off). You do look like it is pulling timing from how jagged it is, but it could also be the tach sensor not getting a good signal. __________________ New Ride -- 2015 Z06 2LZ (stock) -- Journal Old Ride -- 2012 Camaro 2LT/RS (647 RWHP & 726 RWTQ) -- Build Thread

10-10-2013, 01:18 PM	#345
MagnumForceGB Drives: Fastest 2010 Camaro V6 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Newcastle, OK Posts: 3,571 View My Garage	Yeah, think I brain farted, white smoke is oil. Could bad gas also cause the timing to be pulled? __________________ Camaro V6 = 11.268 @ 120.11

09-23-2013, 05:48 PM	#339
Sikoriko Drives: 2011 V6 IOM Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,385 View My Garage	Well anything new? how is that new tune doing you?

10-10-2013, 01:16 PM	#344
Ventmaster Drives: 2017 1SS 6spd Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Utah Posts: 2,858	When the ECM senses the lean condition, it pulls timing and dumps in fuel causing the black smoke as well. Engine sounds strong and running well!

10-10-2013, 01:22 PM	#346
GretchenGotGrowl Drives: 11 F150 EB/13 Sonic RS/15 Z06 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 7,129 View My Garage	Yeah, bad gas can do it. __________________ New Ride -- 2015 Z06 2LZ (stock) -- Journal Old Ride -- 2012 Camaro 2LT/RS (647 RWHP & 726 RWTQ) -- Build Thread

10-10-2013, 01:26 PM	#347
MagnumForceGB Drives: Fastest 2010 Camaro V6 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Newcastle, OK Posts: 3,571 View My Garage	Will try to go next time after I put 104 octane in it from the track. Should be going back soon, I ordered 3.73 gears for my wife's Mustang so she can make Camaro boys cry. Car does sound damn good on the dyno, felt like the ground was vibrating near the end of the run. Just hate having these small issues, if only we had a better ECU. __________________ Camaro V6 = 11.268 @ 120.11

10-10-2013, 02:00 PM	#348
Sikoriko Drives: 2011 V6 IOM Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,385 View My Garage	I wounder if the LT headers HC cats have anything to do the the much timing advance? agree the black smoke is fuel.

10-10-2013, 03:06 PM	#349
MagnumForceGB Drives: Fastest 2010 Camaro V6 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Newcastle, OK Posts: 3,571 View My Garage	Talked to Arno and he said more than likely it was the intercooler being too hot from not enough air in front of the car and the engine pulling timing and running rich to save itself from destruction. Will see how the car does on the track, that should be a better test. Think I'm also the first to get the RPM's into the 7200 RPM range on the dyno graph. __________________ Camaro V6 = 11.268 @ 120.11

10-10-2013, 03:53 PM	#350
KMPrenger Drives: 16 Camaro SS, 15 Colorado Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jefferson City, Missouri Posts: 13,943	That comes out to about 400HP and 350TQ at the crank which isn't bad, but I'd expect to see a bit more out of her considering the higher numbers we've seen from other IPF cars. Maybe it was heat, or maybe something else who knows, but hopefully she runs great at the track where it counts! __________________ 2016 Camaro 1SS - 8-speed - NPP - Black bowties 2010 Camaro 1LT V6 (Sold. I will miss her!)