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Supercamaro64 · 06-29-2013, 11:57 PM

looks like a good car! As long as nobody starts putting Z badges on it when it isn't one, I have no problem with putting some of the cooler looking parts n pieces on. That's what im doing to my 86 berlinetta lol. Had a guy at a gas station try to tell me his car was a 81 Camaro SS. When I told him they didn't make an ss Camaro in that year, he flipped out and showed me all the ss badges on the car (where the z28 badges would be). I looked close, and could still see a little of the residue from the berlinetta badge on the nose

Some people just don't get it.

itsadryheat79 · 06-30-2013, 10:35 PM

Havin a numbers matching car is always better for resale as an original classic.
A car can only be original once... after that it's what the market will bare or if your lucky finding that special buyer willing to pay what it's worth to you.

Is it rare? Well numbers wise:
According to NastyZ28. http://www.nastyz28.com/camaro/camaro79.php
In 1979 there were 260,658 V8 cars and 84,877 were Z28's The rest Base, Berlinetta's or Rally sports could have added the RPO LM1 350 factory option listed as $360.

According to Old ride -- http://www.oldride.com/library/1979_...et_camaro.html
1979 Base Camaro 111,357
1979 Berlinetta Camaro 67,236
1979 RS Camaro 19,101
1979 Z-28 Camaro 84,877

Hagerty lists the 1979 Berlinetta 350 option car about $2,500 more than a Berlinetta with the standard 305 witch is not bad for a $360 option!
http://www.hagerty.com/price-guide/1...evrolet-Camaro

wildeone · 07-01-2013, 09:36 PM

Thanks for the replies, I appreciate the input. I am just trying to weigh the asking price of the vehicle against the amount of $$$ to get it back to very good condition. And since this is my first venture I am being doubly cautious.

I have been looking online and as with everything else online separating fact from fiction is very difficult but it looks to me that a total rebuild of the motor could run up to $3000.00, interior work about $2000 and a paint job could be $7000 to $10000. Based on the asking price I would have $18,000 to $21,000 in this. While I am not trying to flip the car, I don't want to be upside down either. Are my estimates correct?

I look online and I see similar cars in similar shape with wide ranges of asking price. Of course those are asking prices, so I look at actual sales and the fans is very wide as well. What makes this a $6000 car vs. a $4000 car?

wildeone · 07-01-2013, 09:58 PM

Thanks for the replies, I appreciate the input. I am just trying to weigh the asking price of the vehicle against the amount of $$$ to get it back to very good condition. And since this is my first venture I am being doubly cautious.

I have been looking online and as with everything else online separating fact from fiction is very difficult but it looks to me that a total rebuild of the motor could run up to $3000.00, interior work about $2000 and a paint job could be $7000 to $10000. Based on the asking price I would have $18,000 to $21,000 in this. While I am not trying to flip the car, I don't want to be upside down either. Are my estimates correct?

I look online and I see similar cars in similar shape with wide ranges of asking price. Of course those are asking prices, so I look at actual sales and the span is very wide as well. What makes this a $6000 car vs. a $4000 car?

itsadryheat79 · 07-02-2013, 01:57 AM

You estimates may be a bit high but you right that you could put a lot of money in it and never get it back. In this year there are lots of cars to choose from. Your not going to make money but for your investment you can have a lot of fun and should think about it as an investment in Fun. A driver paint job is easer to drive and enjoy but a show paint job can only be driven to show and may drive you to sell.

If this is your first restore or build try to keep it running so you can enjoy it and keep the enjoyment of driving it fresh in your mind. I see so many people get over their heads. Remember tearing apart a car is a lot easer than putting it back together. It takes time and money to put it back and Craig's List and EBAY are full of half finished broken dream giveaways. NV took only a couple weeks to tear apart and almost 3 years to complete.

Good luck - be strong - keep the faith!

IneedAZ · 07-02-2013, 02:02 PM

I took my license test in a Black 79 Berlinetta...maybe thats why i have always been a Camaro fan!

wildeone · 07-02-2013, 02:36 PM

Mine was in a 74 Gremlin...glad it never stuck with me.

IneedAZ · 07-02-2013, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by wildeone

Mine was in a 74 Gremlin...glad it never stuck with me.

MaukaRunner · 07-29-2013, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by wildeone

A longtime trusted coworker of mine in another state has had this Camaro for the past 10 years. He sent me a photo as I expressed some interest in it several years ago when he mentioned having it in passing and he is now ready to part with it. He is going to send me the VIN info sometime this week but I cannot tell from the photo what model Camaro it is as I am not very experienced with classic cars.

I am told it has a 305 in it and it is a 1979. He said it was a Berlinetta, but it does not look like the photos pf the Berlinettas I have seen. the front end looks like a Z28, but the hood is not the same as most. Any ideas?

Thanks in advance!

Perhaps you can have your friend look for the build sheet? It is usually located behind the rear seat back. Not that hard to find. If it's still there it will answer a lot of questions.

Not sure about the Berlinetta but you could get a Z-28 with the Type LT package before 1979. The Type LT and Berlinetta's come with the factory gauge package. The pic shows the fender vents and front spoler. A '79 Z-28 would also have a spoiler (not sure what the actual name is) piece in front of the rear wheel opening which matches the front spoiler. '78's didn't have the rear spoiler.

The car would be a good base for a Z-28 clone. Just need the upper and lower grill pieces and emblems. If you take off the under hood insulation you can see the bolt pattern for the hood scoop. Drill out the holes and find the center of the carb and cut out a hole for cold air.

I would get it if you want a good project car and if you could get a good price.

Good luck!

arod55 · 08-17-2013, 08:00 AM

The biggest thing about any project car is you need to get it on a hoist to find out if there is a lot of rust damage, that is the tell tale sign if you plan on investing money in a project. Cars from the east coast can have rust issues because of salt used on roads in severe weather. Do your home work first before buying.

cruiser · 09-10-2013, 11:35 PM

The body work paint estimate could be a little light depending on what you actually want done and th quality of the work. The engine price is in outer space and should include a trans at that cost and labor to pull it put it all back in like new fromt the air cleaner nut to the drain plug. A 350 Chevy is the cheapest engine to build of any out there.

06-29-2013, 11:57 PM	#15
Supercamaro64 Right, right. Drives: 79 Z28, 86 Camaro, 94 Burb 4x4 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Posts: 1,350 View My Garage	looks like a good car! As long as nobody starts putting Z badges on it when it isn't one, I have no problem with putting some of the cooler looking parts n pieces on. That's what im doing to my 86 berlinetta lol. Had a guy at a gas station try to tell me his car was a 81 Camaro SS. When I told him they didn't make an ss Camaro in that year, he flipped out and showed me all the ss badges on the car (where the z28 badges would be). I looked close, and could still see a little of the residue from the berlinetta badge on the nose Some people just don't get it. __________________ "You wanna lay the fate of the world on the kids camaro? Thats cool." "When reporters asked what it was, one official stated, 'It's a small, vicious animal that eats Mustangs.'" The Creampuff Fleet-

06-30-2013, 10:35 PM	#16
itsadryheat79 Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE (2)79Z28 72RS 67SS 69Z Join Date: May 2009 Location: Arizona Posts: 422 View My Garage	Havin a numbers matching car is always better for resale as an original classic. A car can only be original once... after that it's what the market will bare or if your lucky finding that special buyer willing to pay what it's worth to you. Is it rare? Well numbers wise: According to NastyZ28. http://www.nastyz28.com/camaro/camaro79.php In 1979 there were 260,658 V8 cars and 84,877 were Z28's The rest Base, Berlinetta's or Rally sports could have added the RPO LM1 350 factory option listed as $360. According to Old ride -- http://www.oldride.com/library/1979_...et_camaro.html 1979 Base Camaro 111,357 1979 Berlinetta Camaro 67,236 1979 RS Camaro 19,101 1979 Z-28 Camaro 84,877 Hagerty lists the 1979 Berlinetta 350 option car about $2,500 more than a Berlinetta with the standard 305 witch is not bad for a $360 option! http://www.hagerty.com/price-guide/1...evrolet-Camaro __________________ - Buttons and Skulls - miss my annimated signature. Last edited by itsadryheat79; 06-30-2013 at 11:32 PM.

07-02-2013, 01:57 AM	#19
itsadryheat79 Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE (2)79Z28 72RS 67SS 69Z Join Date: May 2009 Location: Arizona Posts: 422 View My Garage	You estimates may be a bit high but you right that you could put a lot of money in it and never get it back. In this year there are lots of cars to choose from. Your not going to make money but for your investment you can have a lot of fun and should think about it as an investment in Fun. A driver paint job is easer to drive and enjoy but a show paint job can only be driven to show and may drive you to sell. If this is your first restore or build try to keep it running so you can enjoy it and keep the enjoyment of driving it fresh in your mind. I see so many people get over their heads. Remember tearing apart a car is a lot easer than putting it back together. It takes time and money to put it back and Craig's List and EBAY are full of half finished broken dream giveaways. NV took only a couple weeks to tear apart and almost 3 years to complete. Good luck - be strong - keep the faith! __________________ - Buttons and Skulls - miss my annimated signature. Last edited by itsadryheat79; 07-02-2013 at 02:09 AM.

07-02-2013, 02:02 PM	#20
IneedAZ Drives: 2017 ZL1 A10 & 2021 BMW M340i x Dr Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tampa Posts: 5,110 View My Garage	I took my license test in a Black 79 Berlinetta...maybe thats why i have always been a Camaro fan! __________________ Sold 2012 2LT RS 12.3@112 old setup Sold 1967 Camaro Pro Street. Ran 10's mild BB on NOS. 2017 HyperBlue ZL1 A10 Born 3/17/17Delivered 4/08/17 2020 Build: Mag2650, BTR Stage2, NW103, BG, 14% lower, 90mm upper, ARH 2" Long system w/no cats, SW Legend mufflers. 807hp/762tq on 93 gas and 848hp/792tq on e47 Sold 2018 (Go Mango) Dodge Charger Daytona 392 Daily Driver Daily Driver 2021 BMW M340i Xdrive

07-01-2013, 09:36 PM	#17
wildeone Drives: None Yet Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: United States Posts: 9	Thanks for the replies, I appreciate the input. I am just trying to weigh the asking price of the vehicle against the amount of $$$ to get it back to very good condition. And since this is my first venture I am being doubly cautious. I have been looking online and as with everything else online separating fact from fiction is very difficult but it looks to me that a total rebuild of the motor could run up to $3000.00, interior work about $2000 and a paint job could be $7000 to $10000. Based on the asking price I would have $18,000 to $21,000 in this. While I am not trying to flip the car, I don't want to be upside down either. Are my estimates correct? I look online and I see similar cars in similar shape with wide ranges of asking price. Of course those are asking prices, so I look at actual sales and the fans is very wide as well. What makes this a $6000 car vs. a $4000 car?

07-01-2013, 09:58 PM	#18
wildeone Drives: None Yet Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: United States Posts: 9	Thanks for the replies, I appreciate the input. I am just trying to weigh the asking price of the vehicle against the amount of $$$ to get it back to very good condition. And since this is my first venture I am being doubly cautious. I have been looking online and as with everything else online separating fact from fiction is very difficult but it looks to me that a total rebuild of the motor could run up to $3000.00, interior work about $2000 and a paint job could be $7000 to $10000. Based on the asking price I would have $18,000 to $21,000 in this. While I am not trying to flip the car, I don't want to be upside down either. Are my estimates correct? I look online and I see similar cars in similar shape with wide ranges of asking price. Of course those are asking prices, so I look at actual sales and the span is very wide as well. What makes this a $6000 car vs. a $4000 car?

07-02-2013, 02:36 PM	#21
wildeone Drives: None Yet Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: United States Posts: 9	Mine was in a 74 Gremlin...glad it never stuck with me.

08-17-2013, 08:00 AM	#24
arod55 AROD55 Drives: 1955 Chevy Bel Air Hardtop Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Bonita, Ca. 91902 Posts: 1,863 View My Garage	The biggest thing about any project car is you need to get it on a hoist to find out if there is a lot of rust damage, that is the tell tale sign if you plan on investing money in a project. Cars from the east coast can have rust issues because of salt used on roads in severe weather. Do your home work first before buying.

09-10-2013, 11:35 PM	#25
cruiser Drives: 1967 Camaro Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 20	The body work paint estimate could be a little light depending on what you actually want done and th quality of the work. The engine price is in outer space and should include a trans at that cost and labor to pull it put it all back in like new fromt the air cleaner nut to the drain plug. A 350 Chevy is the cheapest engine to build of any out there.