R&T: 2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 - First Look

[OldJedi]

Originally Posted by calbert1999

My SS is way better now than when I originally drove it off the lot, wondering daily what the hell was wrong with the car while dudes in ricers were blowing by me daily. Until I took it to a race shop.
I'm currently @ 550hp. NA, will be over 700hp. when the SC is done and that's will be at a mild tune and will match or exceed whatever brakes, tires, and suspension that will be on the ZL1, and it will still cost me less than the price tag of the ZL1.

I am glad you like your SS and are making it the perfect Camaro for you. As your engine work approaches the 700HP mark, I hope for your sake it holds together while are having fun with the ricers. As for me, Chevy built me my dream car in the ZL1 and we will have fun together as we head for retirement.

[Mr. Wyndham]

The ZL1 is going to floor a LOT of people, methinks.........

Shouldn't make them feel any less about their own cars. Not at all. But I imagine it will demand a level of respect it's not receiving from some people right now...

[Weezerj]

Originally Posted by OldJedi

Chevy built me my dream car in the ZL1 and we will have fun together as we head for retirement.

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

The ZL1 is going to floor a LOT of people, methinks.........

Shouldn't make them feel any less about their own cars. Not at all. But I imagine it will demand a level of respect it's not receiving from some people right now...

[calbert1999]

Originally Posted by OldJedi

I am glad you like your SS and are making it the perfect Camaro for you. As your engine work approaches the 700HP mark, I hope for your sake it holds together while are having fun with the ricers. As for me, Chevy built me my dream car in the ZL1 and we will have fun together as we head for retirement.

Well, lot's of SC'd SS's out there with this power level (and a whole lot more HP's), and lots of happy customers when done correctly. And, I guess some not so happy when not done correctly. To be honest, I was not happy with the stock SS not one bit, and that's what pushed me to start doing mods.
This is why there is speculation that the price range not going to be a measly $50k. for the ZL1, especially, when you have to upgrade many of the engine components along with the other bolt on's when getting into the high power bands. But, I could be wrong as it's obvious there are many vendors, quality levels and costs on parts GM can choose from on the ZL1 platform. Case and point the trunion kit for the rockers (or straight out race rockers), and other engine accessories when doing a "good" CAM job and / or SC. Some, guys keep all stock accessories in the heads, and are either lucky that stuff doesn't break or some guys like me go all out and spend the extra $$$, and feel confident knowing I can be aggressive pushing the vehicle to it's "new" limits.
It is quite expensive to have "top" notch equipment for high performance race type applications. In my case I don't mind spending top $$$ to know I'll have a much superior worry free product in the end. So, my 700+hp. application will perform very reliably and safely. Can't say the same for everybody else, as I'm not resonsible for thier vehicles.
Surely, though it will be fun regardless if it's an SS (with all the latest and greatest mods on my way to 1000+hp., and no warranty ), or a brand new kick-ass ZL1. We will have lot's of fun, that's for sure.

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

The ZL1 is going to floor a LOT of people, methinks.........

Shouldn't make them feel any less about their own cars. Not at all. But I imagine it will demand a level of respect it's not receiving from some people right now...

For sure the ZL1 will be a lot of fun, and quite powerfull. Anything over 500hp. is just insane to handle and will rock you back into your seat when you punch the accellerator that's for sure. Will be very intersting though to see the price-tag. I'm curious about that for sure.

[Z4me]

This is a great time to own a chevy camaro, the car is just sweet looking!
Then all the aftermarket companies out their to support our wants and needs, its a time to really cherish, and that's what I'll be doing soon. To
all the mods and camaro lovers on this thread here's to you .

[JohnZ]

Maybe the dealer mentioned 85 because he was including a "mark up". It will be the latest ride and some people will be paying a premium to have it. I remember, when the Camaro's first came out, some dealers had ridiculous mark ups.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by JohnZ

Maybe the dealer mentioned 85 because he was including a "mark up". It will be the latest ride and some people will be paying a premium to have it. I remember, when the Camaro's first came out, some dealers had ridiculous mark ups.

Hopefully people will avoid those dealers.

I can't wait for it to be really tested and available for purchase. This car is going to floor so many people!!!!

[Shurenuff]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Hopefully people will avoid those dealers.

I can't wait for it to be really tested and available for purchase. This car is going to floor so many people!!!!

You seem to be really sending the same message that the ZL1 is really going to surprise a lot of people, especially since the fest. Did a little birdie happen to tell you something?

[Milk 1027]

Originally Posted by Shurenuff

You seem to be really sending the same message that the ZL1 is really going to surprise a lot of people, especially since the fest. Did a little birdie happen to tell you something?

Seeing it in person is a different experience.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Shurenuff

You seem to be really sending the same message that the ZL1 is really going to surprise a lot of people, especially since the fest. Did a little birdie happen to tell you something?

Nope. But then if they did, which they didn't, I wouldn't tell you anyways. j.k.

Originally Posted by Milk 1027

Seeing it in person is a different experience.

And Yes. It was the car equivalent of seeing Niagara Falls for the first time in your life...even though pictures of it are everywhere....

I pre-judge this car based on the confidence the team has for it whenever they discuss what's already known. If these people have confidence in what they're building (and you KNOW they've tested against the best to date), then that's good enough for me.

With a wink and a smile, many of them say the same sorts of things I'm saying: "It's going to surprise a lot of people", etc...I'm really no more than a parrot in this respect.

Make no mistake....all it takes is a read through the press release and a look at the car....everything that is different between it and an SS has been completely ENGINEERED to go FAST. There was no other goal...no compromises (other than cost).

So...am I overzealous in thinking it'll blow the doors off its competitors and hardly break a sweat?....I don't think so....

[Shurenuff]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Nope. But then if they did, which they didn't, I wouldn't tell you anyways. j.k.

Your avatar makes so much more sense now

[Mr. Wyndham]

[Scarrzz]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

This car is going to floor so many people!!!!

Many people are so going to floor this car !!

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[Scarrzz]

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That reminds me, any word on what kind of electronic launch control there may be, if any?

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