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Old 03-21-2009, 03:54 PM   #43
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Old 03-22-2009, 02:16 PM   #44
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you'd need cnc'd heads and a decent cam to be pushing that kinda power...

and its been done....



http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...wap/index.html

and if you really wanna get stupid with your heads... call these guys

www.mastmotorsports.com and ask them about their 12* cnc'd heads...

or about their track packages...

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12* heads?! would you really wanna street those? i read somewhere that something that extreme would really only wanna be used on a race engine. just curious.
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Old 03-22-2009, 02:25 PM   #45
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12* heads?! would you really wanna street those? i read somewhere that something that extreme would really only wanna be used on a race engine. just curious.
ive street'd worse... lol but no, a set of 12* heads wouldnt be going on the car unless it went full race setup. which it very well may be depending on finances
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Old 03-23-2009, 12:58 AM   #46
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What z06 do you own? 4000 lbs?

I was refering to the Camaro being 4,000 lbs. It may be a little bit of a stretch but not much as I ordered a L99/Auto car. I'm assuming the Auto is going to weight in 30#'s heavier then the stick version which comes in at what 3860?

My Z is a 07 that is a hefty pig itself with the iron LSX, Twin Turbo's and auto conversion. I'm guessing it weighs 3500ish. Can do a search on Youtube for LPFSTheFett to see some of the videos. Now the goal is to make the Camaro much faster!
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Old 03-23-2009, 09:09 AM   #47
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Am I reading this right...CAI, shorty headers, pulley, catback and tune = 174 hp? Your saying this would get you to at least 600 fly wheel hp, so 600-426= 174.

I'm saying CAI=12 Rwhp, shorty's=15 Rwhp, pulley=5 Rwhp, Catback=10 Rwhp, Tune= 20 Rwhp=62 Rwhp....as a package I don't think you'll get quite the same amount as the totals there I'd say like 50-55 RWhp as a total, I'm saying you'd be in the neighborhood of 520-530 FWHP. JMHO.

On a 6 sp manual, 600 rwhp, with 15% drivetrain loss, would be 510RWHP...I've not seen any bolt-on LS3 anythings put that kind of power down with bolt-ons...That's strong bolt-on + cam or blower/turbo @ 7psi territory.

I'm pretty sure he was talking about the supposed Z28 with 550+hp. Which those mods might get him to 600 flywheel hp.
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I'm going to push the car stock with stickies at first, then throw on a maggie, followed by a trans build and if that IRS cant hold the power, then I'll move on to a Strange S60.
I saw an interivew with some GM exects ant they also stated the SS is the top of the line and they were going to focus on makeing the SS the top of the line not a z28. Also I have seen cars in the past and the SS was top over the z28.
Do you mean from stock the z28 would beat a SS of the same year and both stock?
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Old 04-25-2009, 03:14 PM   #49
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To get a LS3 into the 500rwhp range, you'd certainly have to do heads and maybe a cam. I got the LS7 in my Z06 to 502rwhp with just bolt on's but it's also got a lot more cubic inches.

As far as break in goes, who needs a break in?!? I always try to get my cars to the strip w/in 2 days of purchasing it. I had my Z to two events before it had 500 miles on it. I don't plan on the SS being treated much different. lol

I've also considered converting the car from the IRS to a solid rear axle, I just don't know what's going to be involved with it. I'd personally love to just go 12 bolt and try to save some weight. The car already weights in at 4,000 lbs, goal would be to cut weight as much as possible.
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I saw an interivew with some GM exects ant they also stated the SS is the top of the line and they were going to focus on makeing the SS the top of the line not a z28. Also I have seen cars in the past and the SS was top over the z28.
Do you mean from stock the z28 would beat a SS of the same year and both stock?

right now, the SS is the top model. because there are only 2 models being made right now. if a Z28 is made, it will out perform an SS of the same year.

during the 4th gen years, GM already knew the f-body was on the cutting board. they made 2 models, the v6 and the Z28. one base and one top model. then in 96, SLP started modding Z28's and rebadging them as SS/Z28s. GM jumped on board with that and started pushing the SS package. for the fourth gens, the SS was the top car over the Z28 after 96. there have been other years where the SS has had more hp than the Z28, but the Z28 was never just about power, it was about overall performance. and GM has stated that if/when they build the Z28, that they want it to live up to its hallowed name.
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Old 04-26-2009, 04:17 PM   #51
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you'd need cnc'd heads and a decent cam to be pushing that kinda power...

and its been done....



http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...wap/index.html
I'm holding that issue as we speak. The stock heads on the LS3 are amazing, and that is one sick Corvette.
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Old 04-29-2009, 02:40 PM   #52
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I'm holding that issue as we speak. The stock heads on the LS3 are amazing, and that is one sick Corvette.
the LS3/L72/L98 heads are freaking bad ass. while a full cnc port job would maximize a donkey dcki cam, the stock heads will flow like no tomorrow. the exhaust side could be touched up a bit, but they are already impressive.

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Yea I kind of thought the cam size they went with was a bit excessive, but I guess it was all to prove a point. Which they did spectacularly.
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