12-16-2010, 02:23 PM | #29 |
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SRT8..... Not even in close to the same class?
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12-16-2010, 03:16 PM | #30 | |
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My point about 2WD vs 4WD/AWD is that the real problem is avoiding collisions, be it by swerving or slowing down. Putting power through 4 wheels does absolutely nothing to help you there, except in the extremely rare situations where you see you are about to be rear ended (their fault anyway) and you are stopped with clear road ahead of you. I suppose it would help you then, but I don't think thats why people buy them. Driving an SUV would improve your chances during a collision, driving a car would definitely improve your chances of avoiding it in the first place. Plus, the confidence that AWD instills when accelerating makes the driver more likely to drive at speeds too fast for conditions, which makes it harder to avoid accidents.
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12-16-2010, 03:23 PM | #31 |
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And we have a winner, unless you need an 'in' with the blue-hair crowd (Wagon + Cadillac = wouldn't be prudent).
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12-16-2010, 04:00 PM | #32 |
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If I have to stick to the wagon and not the two door CTS-V then I would Jeep for sure.
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12-16-2010, 08:01 PM | #33 |
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SRT8 just because I think it is a unique car. Also an amazing sleeper...
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12-17-2010, 05:31 AM | #34 | |
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12-17-2010, 10:14 AM | #35 |
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Ummm, DGthe3, AWD does help you turn as well as start in the snow. I'm not sure why you'd think AWD doesn't help you turn?
As far as the workarounds go, ya OK, but wouldn't you rather not need workarounds? You are right that it has no effect on slowing though. I agree that many get a false sense of confidence as well. Bottom line though, AWD > then 2WD in snow.
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12-17-2010, 12:59 PM | #37 |
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I don't know why "AWD doesn't help you brake" comes up in these arguments all the time. When has the drive wheels ever helped you brake?
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12-17-2010, 01:05 PM | #38 |
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I don't care how many or which wheels you have driving the car, if you suck at driving in snow, you'll fail. Simple as that. Reminds me of two winters ago when a 4WD Honda CR-V went flying past me on the highway during a blizzard and slid straight into a guard rail.
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12-17-2010, 01:26 PM | #39 |
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Wagons are ugly no matter what letters are in front of it...even CTS-V! Great power and engine...but it's still a wagon!
SRT8 for me please...and after driving one at the SRT Experience, it's a dang fine sport SUV! I liked it lots! |
12-17-2010, 01:28 PM | #40 |
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Hehe, or last winter, i was in a nearby city with my old '91 Caprice (with winter snow/ice tires). It was during snow storm, and i was at a light with a 4x4 XTerra beside me, and a Ford Fx4 truck behind me. Both had 4x4 on, because you could see there front tires spin, yet the 4x4 systems either didn't have a rear limited slip, or just were plain awful because my car would walk away from them at every light we stopped at. (Not racing, just navigating in the snow.)
2WD isn't bad, you just need a limited slip (and proper tires too) in order to get the job done. My '10 SRX with Haldex AWD and a torque vectoring Rear differential does wonders in the snow, and is a beaut with the snow/ice tires on!
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We just got 20 inches last saturday. I find it hard to believe that a rear drive or a front drive car would do well in that. I drive a rear wheel drive car for work and if there is more than 4 or 5 inches on the ground, you really aren't going anywhere. |
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12-17-2010, 01:33 PM | #42 |
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Oh, and I would take the SRT over the V wagon.
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