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2SSRS@Gen5diy · 10-20-2009, 07:33 PM

This is what i can tell you from calls and PM's that i have had with some of the PPL at and with Vararam, If you try to do a dyno on the same time as was the test this weekend what happens is this car dos not compensate fast, How do i know this? One way is that dynos where done on a car that made 411 rwhp on three pulls and then we put OEM air box on the car and did a pull and the first pull made 396 RWHP and the next PULL made 392 RWHP, So the car came off the dyno and we had a hard time driving it as it did not run right and it was driven for some 30 mi and it was running bad, Not that it was dying but not right so it was almost 150 mi before it ran right and the next day it was back to the Dyno for a new pull and this time it pulled a nice 382 RWHP, Now this is not my car but it was the guy in TX car, This why i say that the test was a wast of time as you need to drive this car for it to find it happy spot, I sent a long time ago a pm to your friend and my friend TAG UR IT with the PM's of this results this was on 9-17-09.

One more thing, the unit i have has a smaller air filter in it so my AFR is at 12.4 at WOT and that is in the tail pipe after the cats, The other unit has a 11.8 that not what is wanted Vararam wants 12.4 to 12.8 to 1 at WOT.

I dont have all the words to or the Engineering lingo for you, all i know is what i have seen, and was told by Vararam and 50 years of common sense, So if you think that any of the units on the list will work for you go and get them, But if you want the best unit hold on for a sort time you will not be wasting your time i promise you that.

And if you got some thing you want an answer to if i now it i will tel you.

GMRULZ · 10-20-2009, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 2SSRS

This is what i can tell you from calls and PM's that i have had with some of the PPL at and with Vararam, If you try to do a dyno on the same time as was the test this weekend what happens is this car dos not compensate fast, How do i know this? One way is that dynos where done on a car that made 411 rwhp on three pulls and then we put OEM air box on the car and did a pull and the first pull made 396 RWHP and the next PULL made 392 RWHP, So the car came of the dyno and we hade a hard time driving it as it did not run right and it was driven for some 30 mi and it was running bad, Not that it was dying but not right so it was almost 150 mi before it ran right and the next day it was back to the Dyno for a new pull and this time it pulled a nice 382 RWHP, Now this is not my car but it was the guy in TX car, This why i say that the test was a wast of time as you need to drive this car for it to find it happy spot, I sent a long time ago a pm to your friend and my friend TAG UR IT with the PM's this was on 9-17-09.

One more thing thin the unit i have has a smaller air filter in it so my AFM is at 12.4 at WOT and that is in the tail pipe after the cats, The other unit has a 11.8 that not what is wanted Vararam wants 12.4 to 12.8 to 1 at WOT.

I dont have all the words to or the Engineering lingo for you, all i know is what i have seen, and was told by Vararam and 50 years of common sense, So if you think that any of the units on the list will work for you go and get them, But if you want the best unit hold on for a sort time you will not be wasting your time i promise you that.

And if you got some thing you want an answer to if i now it i will tel you.

Please man, you seem like a nice guy, the more you say you are just burying yourself IMO. Let Vararam come on here and explain their theories if you need backup. Honestly man, you are just hurting your case in my opinion the more you defend your theories..

2SSRS@Gen5diy · 10-20-2009, 08:47 PM

It not a theories its a fact You dont need to believe me, I see you drag race so you tell me what is best a 9.5 AFr or A 12.5 to one AFr.

This Dyno pull.

Or this one and look at the AFR on the two.

2SSRS@Gen5diy · 10-20-2009, 10:20 PM

Why is it that i cant get any one to think for them self, all tuners have a wide band to see what comes out of the tail pipe, that was the thing i had to find out for my test, if the dyno i went to had one, If not i was told its a wast of time as you will not learn a thing on how your car is running, So i called up the dyno shop and asked if he had a wide band, If you do not i will pass on my time at you shop, All tuners have one as it is how you find out what the AFR is on a car. I know my AFR do you.

1320junkie · 10-20-2009, 10:21 PM

I have my own thoughts on the whole test thing but I will keep them to myself.

Windy City · 10-20-2009, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 1320junkie

I have my own thoughts on the whole test thing but I will keep them to myself.

jnewberr2ssrs · 10-20-2009, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GMRULZ

Please man, you seem like a nice guy, the more you say you are just burying yourself IMO. Let Vararam come on here and explain their theories if you need backup. Honestly man, you are just hurting your case in my opinion the more you defend your theories..

Let Vararam fight it's own battles....You keep hyping them up to be bigger than the return of Jesus and honestly why is this such a big deal to you? When they come out with their product we'll see how it fairs...I don't doubt that the Vararam will be pretty cool but I don't see why you're trying to argue endlessly when a straight-shooting expert in the field with about 30 years experience is giving his time, effort, and honest opinion on the matter.

Camaro5 is supposed to unite us...Let's rock on out of the pointless arguing guys

Mod4SS · 10-20-2009, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GMRULZ

...the more you say you are just burying yourself IMO. Let Vararam come on here and explain their theories if you need backup. Honestly man, you are just hurting your case in my opinion the more you defend your theories..

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2SSRS@Gen5diy · 10-20-2009, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 1320junkie

I have my own thoughts on the whole test thing but I will keep them to myself.

Why let it all out as a driver and a 1320 Junkie.

1320junkie · 10-20-2009, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 2SSRS

Why let it all out as a driver and a 1320 Junkie.

lol..nope...

2SSRS@Gen5diy · 10-20-2009, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jnewberr2ssrs

Let Vararam fight it's own battles....You keep hyping them up to be bigger than the return of Jesus and honestly why is this such a big deal to you? When they come out with their product we'll see how it fairs...I don't doubt that the Vararam will be pretty cool but I don't see why you're trying to argue endlessly when a straight-shooting expert in the field with about 30 years experience is giving his time, effort, and honest opinion on the matter.

Camaro5 is supposed to unite us...Let's rock on out of the pointless arguing guys

Its not pointless as if it helps you find the best unit for the $ and i don't care what unit it is.

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I hope you get what you deserve for your self.

2SSRS@Gen5diy · 10-20-2009, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 1320junkie

lol..nope...

You know this is better than TV.

Mod4SS · 10-20-2009, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 2SSRS

Its not pointless as if it helps you find the best unit for the $ and i don't care what unit it is.

Obviously you do... have you read your posts lately?

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Originally Posted by 2SSRS

I hope you get what you deserve for your self

iBK3000 · 10-20-2009, 10:43 PM

lol at this thread.

10-20-2009, 07:33 PM	#1
2SSRS@Gen5diy Drives: 2014 Z/28 #82+#192, 18ZLE 66Nova Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: By the lake in AZ Posts: 15,719 View My Garage	Why i think you cant do a Dyno in the same day This is what i can tell you from calls and PM's that i have had with some of the PPL at and with Vararam, If you try to do a dyno on the same time as was the test this weekend what happens is this car dos not compensate fast, How do i know this? One way is that dynos where done on a car that made 411 rwhp on three pulls and then we put OEM air box on the car and did a pull and the first pull made 396 RWHP and the next PULL made 392 RWHP, So the car came off the dyno and we had a hard time driving it as it did not run right and it was driven for some 30 mi and it was running bad, Not that it was dying but not right so it was almost 150 mi before it ran right and the next day it was back to the Dyno for a new pull and this time it pulled a nice 382 RWHP, Now this is not my car but it was the guy in TX car, This why i say that the test was a wast of time as you need to drive this car for it to find it happy spot, I sent a long time ago a pm to your friend and my friend TAG UR IT with the PM's of this results this was on 9-17-09. One more thing, the unit i have has a smaller air filter in it so my AFR is at 12.4 at WOT and that is in the tail pipe after the cats, The other unit has a 11.8 that not what is wanted Vararam wants 12.4 to 12.8 to 1 at WOT. I dont have all the words to or the Engineering lingo for you, all i know is what i have seen, and was told by Vararam and 50 years of common sense, So if you think that any of the units on the list will work for you go and get them, But if you want the best unit hold on for a sort time you will not be wasting your time i promise you that. And if you got some thing you want an answer to if i now it i will tel you. Last edited by 2SSRS@Gen5diy; 10-21-2009 at 09:37 AM. Reason: My bad

10-20-2009, 08:47 PM	#3
2SSRS@Gen5diy Drives: 2014 Z/28 #82+#192, 18ZLE 66Nova Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: By the lake in AZ Posts: 15,719 View My Garage	It not a theories its a fact You dont need to believe me, I see you drag race so you tell me what is best a 9.5 AFr or A 12.5 to one AFr. This Dyno pull. Or this one and look at the AFR on the two. Last edited by 2SSRS@Gen5diy; 10-21-2009 at 09:38 AM.

10-20-2009, 10:43 PM	#14
iBK3000 Drives: '04 Range Rover, Camaro 2SS 6MT Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 213	lol at this thread. __________________ CGM 2SS/RS 6SM . No muff.

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2SSRS@Gen5diy Drives: 2014 Z/28 #82+#192, 18ZLE 66Nova Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: By the lake in AZ Posts: 15,719 View My Garage	Why is it that i cant get any one to think for them self, all tuners have a wide band to see what comes out of the tail pipe, that was the thing i had to find out for my test, if the dyno i went to had one, If not i was told its a wast of time as you will not learn a thing on how your car is running, So i called up the dyno shop and asked if he had a wide band, If you do not i will pass on my time at you shop, All tuners have one as it is how you find out what the AFR is on a car. I know my AFR do you.

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1320junkie Drives: The Imperial Army Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: The Darkside Posts: 15,742	I have my own thoughts on the whole test thing but I will keep them to myself.