10-08-2009, 03:26 PM | #43 | |
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I see your point, and respect the "more sales is good" mindset...but....Look at it this way: Early on, they placed a sales goal for Camaro in between 80,000 and 100,000 units. That is the magic range to keep the car profitable, and continue producing it. At current levels, the car already is selling at roughly 95,000 units a year. This is without the convertible (expected to bring a healthy chunk of sales itself). So they don't need anymore people buying the car. Therefore, from a business-case standpoint, the Z28 isn't essential to meet their sales goals. And this is a good point, too: |
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10-08-2009, 05:28 PM | #44 | |
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The LS3 is 430 HP in the Vette, 426 in our beloved SS Camaro and about that in the G8 GXP. If it were that simple to get it to 480 and not be a guzzler it would be. Yep 480 would be nice.................just not as easy as dropping a crate motor in though. Essentially what you are describing is a Z06 without the premium materials.
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10-08-2009, 08:07 PM | #47 | |
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the 2010 camaro is a new car... not a dirivative of an older car but a new one. why must we be limited by the old mindset that it has to be cheap and has to be the poor mans vette. the vette will always weigh much less, and the camaro will always be second best in performance; so why not a gt500 class car that has everything and the sink thrown into it. i for one would buy it in a heart beat, trade in my 2ss and drive with super-permagrin. i dont want a stripped down racer, i dont have time to hit the track. i want something i can use every day as a daily driver and smash the go pedal and have some fun. and yes, you can easily use 550hp on the city streets. something i learned a long time ago is that you can have just as much fun going from 0-speedlimit as you can driving way too fast. all you need is some sticky Z tires and a 6 speed. (btw, who'd like to see a dual clutch tranny in the z? maybe feroelectric suspension???) |
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It's starting to look like I am in the minority about what the Z/28 should be..... bummer eh.
Time will tell I guess! Last edited by ShnOmac; 10-08-2009 at 08:32 PM. |
10-08-2009, 08:35 PM | #49 |
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I don't have an issue with your vision of what the Z/28 should be but, if it does, in fact, become what you want I'm praying for a ZL1. No offense meant.
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10-08-2009, 08:37 PM | #50 | |
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BUT -- a BIG +1 to the magnetic suspension system, so long as it's programed for ultra-performance like the ZR1... I'm gonna get one even if it costs $100,000, and I have to save up for ten years -- but I WILL have one... |
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10-08-2009, 08:40 PM | #51 | |
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I want us all to get what we want... thats why Im hopin for at least 2 performance models Thats one expensive Camaro.... |
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10-08-2009, 08:46 PM | #52 |
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I could swing right at $50K but it would have to be a bad mutha for me to take the plunge.
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10-08-2009, 09:02 PM | #53 | |
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Z06 - premium materials = Z/28 right? Can I have it for $38,000. - $42,000.? Last edited by 2cnd chance; 10-09-2009 at 10:32 PM. |
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10-09-2009, 09:33 PM | #54 |
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Corvette has a Z51 handling package, why can't the Camaro have a Z/28 handling package?
Corvette has a ZR-1 supercharged beast-of-a-car package, why can't the Camaro have a ZL-1 supercharged beast-of-a-car package? I agree they shouldn't concentrate too much on nostalgia, but that sounds pretty in-line with what they're currently doing. |
10-10-2009, 09:31 PM | #56 | |
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Maybe there will be a track package for the Camaro...I'd like to hope so!! But that shouldn't be labeled "Z28", imo... |
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