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Stock Boy · 11-14-2013, 03:09 PM

Well I just found out that I have a TPW of 11/18. Hopefully they'll ship this batch and not store them.

Buffman · 11-14-2013, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

Because the Goodyear's allow those cars to perform as well as they do. Switching to another tire might let people go to the grocery store in winter...but it wouldn't perform the way they want it to on the track: which is why they are designed and built.

Well said

DwRed1LTV6 · 11-14-2013, 04:14 PM

Why not suspend the ZL1 as well.
arent they the same tires just different
rear size.

i wondered this earlier when i saw
this thread.

Buffman · 11-14-2013, 04:25 PM

ZL1 are suspended read the OP post it says it all over the info.....

Milkdudd · 11-14-2013, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by elarson5757

Don't get why they just don't use a different tire.

1LE's should come standard with a high quality three season performance tire, then offer the current tire as a no cost "track tire" option. Who could possibly argue with that? Now let the "you just don't get what this car is all about" tidal wave begin.

HP_Therapy · 11-14-2013, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stock Boy

Well I just found out that I have a TPW of 11/18. Hopefully they'll ship this batch and not store them.

Me too..... They will either get built and ship, or get built and sit there.

tramtwo · 11-14-2013, 06:54 PM

Most of the 1LE cars built this time last year shipped without delay. I took delivery first week of December.

Msmall143 · 11-14-2013, 07:33 PM

News flash. the sales lost for delaying a car a couple of months is a drop in the bucket for gm. This is a company at spends 10,000,000 on Facebook advertising alone. They did roughly 80 million in revenue from 1le's last year. If they lost 10 million in sales(which they won't because that would mean zero orders during the delayed months!). That would be .0006 of 1 percent loss in total revenue.

Point being, they ain't changing anything for .0006 percent!

*Mr. Wyndham* · 11-14-2013, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silver85IrocZ

Why not suspend the ZL1 as well.
arent they the same tires just different
rear size.

i wondered this earlier when i saw
this thread.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buffman

ZL1 are suspended read the OP post it says it all over the info.....

+1.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milkdudd

1LE's should come standard with a high quality three season performance tire, then offer the current tire as a no cost "track tire" option. Who could possibly argue with that? Now let the "you just don't get what this car is all about" tidal wave begin.

If you know it's going to come...then you know why...and I'll spare my fingers the effort of typing it out.

Perhaps if they made it easier/cheaper to purchase accessory wheels & winter tires, this might not need to occur...but the # of people willing to buy those wheels and tires for any more than a grand (which is impractical) is slim to none, I'll bet.

At the end of the day, while they might be doing this from a legal standpoint of avoiding lawsuits...they are also concerned for driver safety...and vehicle quality.

Camaro team doesn't want a car shipped that has cracked tires, or flat-spots...nor do they want people getting their high performnace car...risk not being told with the appropriate stress that these tires are dangerous in extremely cold temperatures...and wrecking their brand new cars....

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Originally Posted by Trex_47e

Me too..... They will either get built and ship, or get built and sit there.

I could be wrong.....but I don't think they're going to sit on any of them...the cold temps can damage the tires in extreme circumstances...If I were GM (and I'm not)...I'd put the entire car (1LE and ZL1) on an artificial constraint...causing them not to be built until the resume date...

Bad@ssCamaro · 11-14-2013, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PYROLYSIS

I hope time flies for you. I know you've been waiting forever.

I don't see why they can't just cover the tires somehow.

Now that it's November, It's only a few months away...it will go fast...and like people keep saying, it will be worth the wait

MotorCity · 11-14-2013, 11:09 PM

yep... it's that time of year again!

tramtwo · 11-15-2013, 01:28 AM

All the more time to study the DIY section and plan your mods!!

Michael2000 · 11-15-2013, 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

Because the Goodyear's allow those cars to perform as well as they do. Switching to another tire might let people go to the grocery store in winter...but it wouldn't perform the way they want it to on the track: which is why they are designed and built.

Michelins do fine on the new Corvette. My guess is they get the Goodyears for less money.

Michael

motorhead · 11-15-2013, 05:41 AM

Has anybody brought up the fact that there are already cars sitting on dealers lots in cold climates? Why's it any different if they set in the cold in Canada or any one of the northern states. Cold is cold. We've had below freezing temp here for a while now and I don't see any dealers around here bringing their ZL1s or 1LEs in out of the cold.

11-14-2013, 04:14 PM	#45
DwRed1LTV6 Drives: '11 VR 2LT HHr Join Date: May 2011 Location: Gateway to the West Posts: 2,721	Why not suspend the ZL1 as well. arent they the same tires just different rear size. i wondered this earlier when i saw this thread. __________________ 2011 Hhr Formerly known as Silver85IrocZ !!

11-14-2013, 11:09 PM	#53
MotorCity Drives: BRM 2SS/RS 1LE Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Detroit Posts: 113	yep... it's that time of year again! __________________

11-14-2013, 03:09 PM	#43
Stock Boy Drives: 2014 1LE Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 479	Well I just found out that I have a TPW of 11/18. Hopefully they'll ship this batch and not store them.

11-14-2013, 04:25 PM	#46
Buffman 1LE FTW Drives: 2014 Camaro 2SS/RS 1LE Recaros NPP Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Mile High Posts: 448 View My Garage	ZL1 are suspended read the OP post it says it all over the info.....

11-14-2013, 06:54 PM	#49
tramtwo Drives: 2021 1LE Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: N'Awlinz Posts: 6,315	Most of the 1LE cars built this time last year shipped without delay. I took delivery first week of December.

11-14-2013, 07:33 PM	#50
Msmall143 Drives: Camaro Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: NOVA Posts: 1,718	News flash. the sales lost for delaying a car a couple of months is a drop in the bucket for gm. This is a company at spends 10,000,000 on Facebook advertising alone. They did roughly 80 million in revenue from 1le's last year. If they lost 10 million in sales(which they won't because that would mean zero orders during the delayed months!). That would be .0006 of 1 percent loss in total revenue. Point being, they ain't changing anything for .0006 percent!

11-15-2013, 01:28 AM	#54
tramtwo Drives: 2021 1LE Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: N'Awlinz Posts: 6,315	All the more time to study the DIY section and plan your mods!!

11-15-2013, 05:41 AM	#56
motorhead Drives: Love the one you're with Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Downtown Charlie Brown Posts: 11,850	Has anybody brought up the fact that there are already cars sitting on dealers lots in cold climates? Why's it any different if they set in the cold in Canada or any one of the northern states. Cold is cold. We've had below freezing temp here for a while now and I don't see any dealers around here bringing their ZL1s or 1LEs in out of the cold.