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Old 06-16-2008, 09:52 PM   #43
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Wow... life sure can throw a mean left hook sometimes....Me getting a 5th gen Is looking more and more unlikely. I got shafted at my last command and the transfered me up here to WA dispite the fact Ive got a career ending spinal injury because they didnt wanna deal with it. So Im paying a mortgage for a house in GA, and staying with my inlaws. Unfortunately my father-in-law is a POS...My mother in law dosent speak good english, and she gives him the money for all the bills and mortgage. too bad for us he hasnt payed the bills in three months, because he'd rather pay his GF's bills. So we helped pay the past due bills and mortgage, and now he's kicking us out because we are helping his wife understand whats going on with the money. So now Ive just paid a deposit on an apartment and trying to figure out how to pay my mortgage, and rent...etc. Then the Navy says congrats your getting medically seperated
WTF what the hell did I doo in my past life? Man am I paying for it now! needless to say my savings are depleted, And I put 500 miles on my 4th gen a week. My tools have been stolen, and I need a new power steering pump, and hoses, my shocks/struts have 150K miles on them, and its time to do most of my schedueled maint. with now where or the tools to do it...so there goes my tax return.


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Tough time, man. I'm sorry to hear it. Things will get better, though....it'll just take some time.

I remember when I had nothing....about $20 to my name. My friends mom started giving me food from her pantry to help out (bread and macaroni and cheese). It was tough....in debt up to my ears....a truck that constantly broke down. It wasn't fun bumming food from my friends mom. And now? House, two cars, two kiddos, ...it'll get better.
^^ Prime example of everything works out in the end, thats what I always say, and sometimes I say it could suck more but that wouldn't be so good to say right now

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Sorry to hear it, bro....

It will get better, though; it always does - that's how it works. - just can't say when. Feel free to rant/vent all you'd like in this thread...God know we all need some sort of outlet.
^^^ True that brother. I may have to make my own vent thread here soon. No thread jacking for me though, A man is through some rough times, as we all have or will have. Rough times can not be avoided,
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Old 06-17-2008, 10:29 AM   #44
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Hey bro, if you don't mind me asking, what's your first name? If I pray then God knows who TFord is, but I feel kind of silly...
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Old 06-17-2008, 01:29 PM   #45
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Hey bro, if you don't mind me asking, what's your first name? If I pray then God knows who TFord is, but I feel kind of silly...
LOL...the name's Shanden
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Old 06-17-2008, 05:49 PM   #46
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You're in my prayers man, hope things get better real ssoon.
Have you considered learning a CAD program? The shipbuilding industry is really hurting for experienced people. With your tech field you would make a great designer if you learned AutoCad.
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Old 06-17-2008, 06:10 PM   #47
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I learned autocad back in highschool...so needless to say I havent seen it since 2001. that has crossed my mind though, I just not in the position to go back to school yet.
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Old 06-17-2008, 07:06 PM   #48
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Old 07-24-2008, 01:54 PM   #49
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Here We Go Again

well first off Id like to thank everybody for your support and prayers through these rough times. This is by far the best site on the internet....the Camaro5 fam is great.

just got the results from my sleep study and im not a expert but the results seem shocking to me!

REM onset latency was 0Hours 0.0 Minutes

Apnea Hypopnea 54.71 events per hour, 3 obstructive apneas, 114 obstructive hypopbeas, and 2 central apneas

REM AHI 0.00 per hour

maxamal desaturation 84%

average heart rate 91 beats per minute


Sleep stage percentages:

stage 1) 20.6%
stage 2) 78.6%
stage 3 (REM) 0.00%

Im no doctor but I thought REM was important, and your heartrate was supposed to be like in the 60's when asleep??? But I wont let this get me down! things are looking better for me, and I got a sleeping mask to make sure Im breathing at night! but does anyone have a clue what the rest of that stuff means???
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Old 07-24-2008, 04:02 PM   #50
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well first off Id like to thank everybody for your support and prayers through these rough times. This is by far the best site on the internet....the Camaro5 fam is great.

just got the results from my sleep study and im not a expert but the results seem shocking to me!

REM onset latency was 0Hours 0.0 Minutes

Apnea Hypopnea 54.71 events per hour, 3 obstructive apneas, 114 obstructive hypopbeas, and 2 central apneas

REM AHI 0.00 per hour

maxamal desaturation 84%

average heart rate 91 beats per minute


Sleep stage percentages:

stage 1) 20.6%
stage 2) 78.6%
stage 3 (REM) 0.00%

Im no doctor but I thought REM was important, and your heartrate was supposed to be like in the 60's when asleep??? But I wont let this get me down! things are looking better for me, and I got a sleeping mask to make sure Im breathing at night! but does anyone have a clue what the rest of that stuff means???
Dude, Your exhausted! You can't heal your body, you can't rest your mind. I'll look into it more to see what you can do. I can tell you right now if you were a women you would be a total Bi**h with the lack of rest you are getting. Your in my prayers!
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Old 07-24-2008, 10:22 PM   #51
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Hey Tford I just sent an email to my two aunts, one of which is a doctor in kansas city and the other is a nurse with 30 years experience, not to mention that my grandfather had trouble with sleep like you so they should be fairly knowledable about all of this. So I should have an answer or two for you in the next day or two.
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TAG/CUBANASO...I had a 7 ft fall during a partol 4 1/2 years ago on a submarine. we took a sudden sharp up angle while I was climbing down a latter. I lost my grip fell and landing almost vertically on my shoulderblade. I heard two pops and had the worst pain, I also lost total function of my arm. since then there is a crazy burning sensation in my back, a constant shooting pain from between my shoulder blades to my right hand, weakness in grip in my right hand, loss of sensation/numbness in my right hand/arm. My right shoulderblade is super sensative, without an undershirt a wool sweater feels like scrubbing steel wool on my back. The same area also gets red and swells, and my hand swells. and there is a stabbing pain between my shoulder blades at the apex of every breath. at least once a month something happens that flares up what evers wrong back there. when that happens I cant use my arm and the pain is unbareable. once I had to go to the ER and they gave me a shot of morphine, vicodin, and vallium and the pain was so bad the meds didnt even get me drowsy!
hmm.........., I smell a case, it wasn't your fault you fell, why didn't the captain give out a warning before the sub had to take evasive actions, what gives the navy the right to boot you because of your injury (THAT THEY CAUSE) that prevents you from performing you dutys, you and your wife can't live of disability, sue for millions
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Old 07-25-2008, 02:30 AM   #53
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Im on a Submarine and we were doing whats called sea trials, where basically all the operating systems are tested. Well I knew we would be taking angles, it was in the plan of the day, I thought that I was OK after taking a few angles. When I descended down to the next level I was'nt prepaired for the large angle that we took, and thats when I lost my grip and the rest is history. Besides thats the good part about being the govenment I cant sue them anyway, I knew all the hazards when I first set foot aboard the boat...That would be the GOV's position, and they are right. The reason Im getting out is they evaluate you based on the ability of you to do your rated job, and world wide deployability. Due to the medications that I have to take just to keep the pain bareable I cant perform my duties working with nuclear weapons. My physical limitations prevent me from being world wide deployable, and just about everyone has to be deployable in the Navy. Pursuing legal actions against the military is fruitless unless you have a lot of money!!!!
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Old 07-25-2008, 02:32 AM   #54
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Hey Tford I just sent an email to my two aunts, one of which is a doctor in kansas city and the other is a nurse with 30 years experience, not to mention that my grandfather had trouble with sleep like you so they should be fairly knowledable about all of this. So I should have an answer or two for you in the next day or two.
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New guy here.

Before i say anything remember that every case is different no two ratings cases are the same. There is also a big difference between Military Disability and VA Disability Compensation. I dont want to get anyones hopes up.

One of my buddies i served in the Corps with cannot lift his right arm above about 30degrees. He was one of three in my platoon, including me, who had neurological complications after a round of smallpox and anthrax vaccinations. Anyways, the cause of his condition is different but the lack of use and range of motion seems the same. He is rated 50% for disability pension from the military. VA claim pending.

I was medically discharged from the Marine Corps, but at a 0% rating. I was rated by the VA at 80%. The two systems are completely different and serve different purposes. The military compensates you for the loss of a career. The VA compensates you on the severity of your medical condition no matter what grade you were or how long you were in. If your VA rating comes back around the same as your military rating take the VA. That is all tax free. Im sure you know, you are paying taxes on the pension.

Plus, the VA will pay you extra money to go back to school and pay for your food and rent and find you a part time job with the Vocational Rehab Program. They also take into consideration your ability to work in their rating making a rating of 100% ($2,500 tax free) a good possibility. Dont feel bad going to the VA for help, these programs were set up to help warriors like us.
For me, the psycological transition from Marine to civilian was and is the hardest part.

I was kicked out with nothing more than my unused leave. A year later and i have a great job, 2 cars paid off, a wife and cash to buy a 2010 SS.

Good things come to those who work hard and deserve it. There wouldnt be good times without the bad.

P.S. I am very familiar with the whole process if you have any questions.

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New guy here.

Before i say anything remember that every case is different no two ratings cases are the same. There is also a big difference between Military Disability and VA Disability Compensation. I dont want to get anyones hopes up.

One of my buddies i served in the Corps with cannot lift his right arm above about 30degrees. He was one of three in my platoon, including me, who had neurological complications after a round of smallpox and anthrax vaccinations. Anyways, the cause of his condition is different but the lack of use and range of motion seems the same. He is rated 50% for disability pension from the military. VA claim pending.

I was medically discharged from the Marine Corps, but at a 0% rating. I was rated by the VA at 80%. The two systems are completely different and serve different purposes. The military compensates you for the loss of a career. The VA compensates you on the severity of your medical condition no matter what grade you were or how long you were in. If your VA rating comes back around the same as your military rating take the VA. That is all tax free. Im sure you know, you are paying taxes on the pension.

Plus, the VA will pay you extra money to go back to school and pay for your food and rent and find you a part time job with the Vocational Rehab Program. They also take into consideration your ability to work in their rating making a rating of 100% ($2,500 tax free) a good possibility. Dont feel bad going to the VA for help, these programs were set up to help warriors like us.
For me, the psycological transition from Marine to civilian was and is the hardest part.

I was kicked out with nothing more than my unused leave. A year later and i have a great job, 2 cars paid off, a wife and cash to buy a 2010 SS.

Good things come to those who work hard and deserve it. There wouldnt be good times without the bad.

P.S. I am very familiar with the whole process if you have any questions.

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