08-26-2008, 11:28 PM | #99 |
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^Some good points there and a basic opinion that many muscle enthusiasts share.
But you're looking at it from purely an enthusiast's standpoint. The consumer public isn't going to care if their V6 camaro is horsepower deficient compared to the G37/370z because they're not racing these things. And GM is banking on making the V6 more of a sensible choice for their target markets moreso than ever before, just look at the state of the global economy and "green image" movement. Gas-sucking V8s are growing less appealing to a large majority of the public. The reason then that the V6 is so impressive is that you won't have to compromise performance, quality, looks, or even very much hp in this case. For many, getting a hot car with the kind of engineering GM put into it and 300 horses, that's enough to get people excited about base muscle IMO. It's been said before, that V6 camaro sales will make or break its success. |
08-27-2008, 07:57 AM | #100 |
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Oh I am totally with you that the V6 is going to be the top seller. Most all buyers don't care about having a V8. They wouldn't care if there was an inlie 4 in there. They just want to look cool in a new camaro.
And that is what GM as a company and a model is hoping for. But "usually" when you come to a forum like this one or the hundreds of others, the people that want to chat and comment on a car are very passionate about it and ARE the enthusiests. Otherwise the same general public isn't going to care enough to suft on a Camaro Forum for a car that isn't even out yet. I used to own a 1968 covertible GTO with a 400. I understand the muscle heritage with these cars. I am torn between getting the new camaro and a 1970 Chevelle SS 454 LS5 (which is my dream car) but in todays muscle market they are about the same price which makes no sense to get the Chevelle. To be honest with you I don't even like the idea of supercharging the 6.2 (like the ZR1) I would be happier if they took the Z06 7.0 and put it in the car as a Z28. NA power is what the camaro deserves..... |
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Now if the V6 Camaro comes in the mid 20s with 300 horses? |
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08-27-2008, 10:05 AM | #102 | |
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You do have a point on the price per HP. The V6 will be nicely priced for what you get, however I have been saying that all along....if that is all you can afford then that is all you can afford. There is nothing wrong with that. But to choose the V6 over the SS when money isn't an issue seems ludacris to me. |
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08-27-2008, 11:51 AM | #103 |
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i was just reading the spec sheet, why does the v6 take regular?
the v6 is aiming at younger people between 18-24. The ss is aiming between 25-68 IMO heres my reasons for v6 insurance- good amount of power- price- i am out of reasons but theres alot more
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08-27-2008, 12:09 PM | #104 |
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It takes regular because premium is too expensive for the base car and it just does not need the high octane. Read that thread on octane.
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08-27-2008, 12:48 PM | #105 |
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That would make sense and I would have agreed 2 months ago, except that there are economy models of cars that are also supposed to use premium, but the bigger, more powerful, and more expensive cars are supposed to run on regular. My parents found that out when looking into getting an Aura.
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08-27-2008, 12:55 PM | #106 |
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after reading this thread its starting to get the idea of possibly opting for the v6 out of my head, i keep forgeting how wheight plays such a big factor. Im just gonna have to suck it up and dish out some more $$ for the 8 eeven if it means waiting a little longer. The one thing i dont need is a new V6 camaro being able to be taken by my current car.
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08-27-2008, 01:31 PM | #107 |
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^ yup exactly what I was trying to say before. The fact thatyou are thinking that means you have "expectations" of what a camaro should be able to do.
if the V6 was 3300 LBS 300 hp would have made that thing a monster. But at almost 3800 it is on par with the market. 0-60 in 6.X seconds just isn't fast anymore :( Don't worry the price difference will not be that huge between the two models. You shouldn't need more then 4-5k more to get the SS Road & Track has tested the 2008 Honda Accord V6 6MT coupe. 0-60: 5.9 seconds 0-100: 14.5 seconds 1/4 mile: 14.5 seconds @ 99.8 mph Top speed: 130 mph (electronically limited) Skidpad: 0.82g Slalom: 63.4 mph 60-0: 132 feet 80-0: 242 feet R&T fuel economy: 16 mpg (estimate) Interior noise: 44 dBA (idle), 72 dBA (70 mph) Test weight: 3715 pounds |
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The fuel has nothing to do with the size of the car. It's the aspiration and compression, ignition. It's not just a matter of more is better. Here check out this primer on Octane. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating |
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I have not really looked into the V8's much myself because I can't afford the payment.
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On paper, the Camaro's V6 looks incredible. But considering it's weight it won't be incredibly fast. Whether it has 300 hp or not. And whether it's 300hp is impressive for the base model of a pony car or not. If it does their 5.9 0-60 that's great. But considering the performance of the V8s are about a second quicker (a second is a big deal when it comes to the 1/4 mile or 0-60) it's not going to blow away any of the pony cars. You may be able to keep up with them for a bit, but not smash any of them. Assuming of course their driver is at all competent. Also, the 350Z, G37 and even the G35 do the 0-60 faster than the Camaro V6. Why are we saying the V6 Camaro will have 350Z performance? The new 350Z (while being quite a bit more expensive) is a great car and fast too. We recently saw a list of bone stock top 1/4 mile times and the fastest are in the low 13s. 13.2 and the like. Are you seriously thinking the Camaro will beat that? Not to mention the 350z also has a pretty well sorted chassis. I'm a Camaro lover, but like I said in another thread: you should stop believing what you hope to be true and start believing what is likely to be true. And if you think it's likely that a V6 Camaro will out sprint a 350Z you need to reexamine your car knowledge and the facts that are right in front of you for that matter. All that being said, I think the Camaro is impressive for a V6, but in the realm of sporty coupes, it's not going to be that impressive. I think it's praises will always be followed by the line "for a V6". It's pretty quick... for a V6. It's not bad... for a V6. This is all in comparison the V8. And any other serious performance car out there. |
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