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Bo White · 02-21-2013, 04:53 PM

I agree, a 5th gen on the local dyno made 468hp with a 226/234 cam just a few weeks ago with bolt ons.

dekan513 · 02-21-2013, 05:04 PM

ya my car made 462/423 with the lg g6x3. which seems a lil low compared to some others but there were things going against me that day , 106* shop temps and about 500 miles from a oil change. but my car runs right with another car that identical to mine same cam and such but he made 478/432 on the same dyno. but our cars mph the same at the track. i mean dont get tide up in numbers a whole lot . but if u ask me 50 rwhp is a good jump for a cam.

Mchlgrrsn · 02-21-2013, 05:34 PM

Horsepower gains are not the whole story. A cam/tune will make your car "quicker". It moves torque into a more "useable" rpm range. Gear ratios don't add hp but will make your car quicker. If your adding mods a camshaft is one of the best bang for the bucks out there.

rahallfly · 02-21-2013, 05:43 PM

As I was typing i was wondering if it was the M6 Or Auto...

Tomorrow i get to start my car for the first time with the new cam!!!

fingers crossed

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo White

416rwhp on a M6 car with LTs/intake/tune is about were it should be. Mine makes 411.

Tampa Tuning · 02-21-2013, 06:05 PM

dyno numbers are a little tricky and there's a lot of factors in the dyno that can change your numbers. As a calibrator, im more focused on my scanner than the dyno. My scanner tells me if the calibration is on target. The dyno only tells me the effects of the changes I made.

Your if your car makes 450ish RWHP on a Dynojet, you'll be about 405ish RWHP on a mustang. Doesn't make it wrong, but the dyno is a measuring tool. After a long day of calibrating your car in the heat, lets say you make 400 RWHP. The next day you can cold start the car, get the fluids up to a safe temperature, and do a cold pull, you'll be just over 410 RWHP and change nothing. Again, the dyno numbers are less of a factor then my scanner.

You can numb the hell out of knock sensors and make higher numbers.

So,
I wouldn't say 50 RWHP from "his cam is the biggest you can go without flycutting" would be out of normal, but the 416 RWHP is a little high for bolt ons from what I see on a Dynojet.

More importantly, is the vehicle calibrated correctly and does the owner like the finished product.

Now take it to the track and see if his numbers add up.
Phil
www.TampaTuning.com

96MrBass · 02-21-2013, 06:56 PM

Mine made 409 hp/411 tq with just about the same mods.

TheBandit18 · 02-21-2013, 07:08 PM

it was on a dynojet. ill have to get the specs soon. I guess it all makes sense now! thanks!

Pro Stock John · 02-22-2013, 08:55 AM

Take these cars to the track the dyno is just a tuning tool.

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02-21-2013, 04:53 PM	#15
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	I agree, a 5th gen on the local dyno made 468hp with a 226/234 cam just a few weeks ago with bolt ons. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

02-21-2013, 05:04 PM	#16
dekan513 chevy pride Drives: 2ss/rs Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: pikeville ky Posts: 2,141 View My Garage	ya my car made 462/423 with the lg g6x3. which seems a lil low compared to some others but there were things going against me that day , 106* shop temps and about 500 miles from a oil change. but my car runs right with another car that identical to mine same cam and such but he made 478/432 on the same dyno. but our cars mph the same at the track. i mean dont get tide up in numbers a whole lot . but if u ask me 50 rwhp is a good jump for a cam. __________________ check out ky speeds fb page https://www.facebook.com/kyspeed

02-21-2013, 05:34 PM	#17
Mchlgrrsn Stroked and blown Drives: 2010 LS3 2SS Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Bridgewater, NJ Posts: 1,458 View My Garage	Horsepower gains are not the whole story. A cam/tune will make your car "quicker". It moves torque into a more "useable" rpm range. Gear ratios don't add hp but will make your car quicker. If your adding mods a camshaft is one of the best bang for the bucks out there. __________________ LME 416 LS3 shortblock/Callies Compstar 4340 4"crank/Callies 6.125 H beams rods/Wiesco 4.07 forged pistons/Cam Motion custom LS1/LME ported heads /maggie TVS2300/I West 8rib 10%OD /3.2 pulley/OD cog drive/JRE tensioner/ID850 /ADM dual fuel/Kooks LT 1 7/8/magna flow2.5 /cat delete/Roto Fab CAI /MGW short throw /SPEC super twin clutch/G Force built trans,carbon syncro rear shaft upgrade /DSS 9"single CF DS /Strange 3.70/31 spline trutrac/MT DR's/earls oil cooler /tuned KHC

02-21-2013, 06:56 PM	#20
96MrBass Drives: GM Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Marydel, DE Posts: 1,321	Mine made 409 hp/411 tq with just about the same mods. __________________ Roto- Fab Cai, SLP 1 3/4" headers, 3"X pipe, LM2 cat back, Comp Cam & AI Heads, SLP UP, RPM Tuned, GPI Intake, Vmax TB, ADM Air Scoop, 3.91 Gears, Gforce driveshaft, Braille 21#, Elite Catch Can, Pfadt Tie Rods, Diff Bushings and Trailing arms, Eibach spings & sways, BMR cradle bushings, Nt555r's.

02-22-2013, 08:55 AM	#22
Pro Stock John Writer Drives: 2010 SS / 1967 Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 7,216	Take these cars to the track the dyno is just a tuning tool. Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk 2 __________________ PROJECT HEAVY CHEVY Camaro Now: Mods for the Masses Part I \| Part II 13.15@106 1.95 \| 100% Stock 12.37@112 1.85 \| + Kooks Headers/Cats + 20" 555R + CAI + BW TB + UDP + Tune 12.06@113 1.70 \| + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune 11.84@115 1.59 \| + 3.91s + Race Star 17x7 Fronts 10.90@125 1.47 \| + GPI VVT Cam + BW Ported Heads + CD 3800

02-21-2013, 06:05 PM	#19
Tampa Tuning Account Suspended Drives: TAMPA TUNING FACEBOOK & INSTAGRAM Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Tampa, Fl Posts: 3,044	dyno numbers are a little tricky and there's a lot of factors in the dyno that can change your numbers. As a calibrator, im more focused on my scanner than the dyno. My scanner tells me if the calibration is on target. The dyno only tells me the effects of the changes I made. Your if your car makes 450ish RWHP on a Dynojet, you'll be about 405ish RWHP on a mustang. Doesn't make it wrong, but the dyno is a measuring tool. After a long day of calibrating your car in the heat, lets say you make 400 RWHP. The next day you can cold start the car, get the fluids up to a safe temperature, and do a cold pull, you'll be just over 410 RWHP and change nothing. Again, the dyno numbers are less of a factor then my scanner. You can numb the hell out of knock sensors and make higher numbers. So, I wouldn't say 50 RWHP from "his cam is the biggest you can go without flycutting" would be out of normal, but the 416 RWHP is a little high for bolt ons from what I see on a Dynojet. More importantly, is the vehicle calibrated correctly and does the owner like the finished product. Now take it to the track and see if his numbers add up. Phil www.TampaTuning.com

02-21-2013, 07:08 PM	#21
TheBandit18 Drives: 2011 Camaro 2ss M6 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 989	it was on a dynojet. ill have to get the specs soon. I guess it all makes sense now! thanks!