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Revo1 · 02-02-2011, 02:31 AM

Confused. I only see two options- camshaft or slicks...

Irnwkrkev · 02-02-2011, 03:33 AM

Tires. More power is only going to worsen your traction issue. Most people can't hook the car stock let alone modified. The more power you add will only increase the chance of snapping axles when you do get sticky tires. I've added some cheap mods and am at 425rwhp but can't touch the fastest bone stock times since I can't get it to hook. The prices for rims and tires is hard to swallow but would probably be the most gains for one given mod. Then some bushings and gears.... when dynoing the car my tuner was shocked how 4th topped out at 155mph. That's crazy! These cars are begging for 4.10's.

4RD H8R · 02-02-2011, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Bad70supreme

My vote is the rims and tires, I have been racing for years and whats the point of all that power and not putting it down! Your running good times for your mods, imagine what you could do with a good 60ft... I bet you see 12.20s once you figure out how to launch on the drag tires. Then put the headers or cam in it... and your running 11s just like that, and not worried about launching the car and you will see what it can really do. 18" drag rims will be alot of rotating mass of the car and that will help pick up in ET also.

I feel the same way about tires, but the axles scare me, and I just cant afford 1500+ for axles. (sure wish I coul order some strange or moser like a the good ole days .... solid axle). My thinking with the cam is that I probrably won't start breaking things until it hooks, but after that all bets are off. Not to mention until I get to 3500+rpm it probrabley wont be making that much more power anyway so any additional traction issues might not be that signifigant. It sure would be nice to be able to leave and have a clue what to dial or work on the tree a little.

Headers 3
Cam 2
Slicks 1

4RD H8R · 02-02-2011, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Revo1

Confused. I only see two options- camshaft or slicks...

I know, but any input could help. (although I am still leaning more toward cam or slick instead of headers, but maybe I'll be convinced)

4RD H8R · 02-02-2011, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Irnwkrkev

Tires. More power is only going to worsen your traction issue. Most people can't hook the car stock let alone modified. The more power you add will only increase the chance of snapping axles when you do get sticky tires. I've added some cheap mods and am at 425rwhp but can't touch the fastest bone stock times since I can't get it to hook. The prices for rims and tires is hard to swallow but would probably be the most gains for one given mod. Then some bushings and gears.... when dynoing the car my tuner was shocked how 4th topped out at 155mph. That's crazy! These cars are begging for 4.10's.

I tend to tkink that I could put as much power, within reason, that I want and I won't break axles, just spin till next week. I do agree I could pick up just as muck ET by being able to leave hard vs more power, just gainig in different places on the timeslip. I really want a gear also but that is beyond my ability to install myself and that is some major $$$, but one day it will be mine!!!!

Headers 3
Cam 2
Slicks 2

c-dub · 02-02-2011, 12:47 PM

why not just save up a bunch of money and do everything (except the tires) at once? headers, camshaft, tune...one shot one kill!

4RD H8R · 02-02-2011, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by c-dub

why not just save up a bunch of money and do everything (except the tires) at once? headers, camshaft, tune...one shot one kill!

Patience is a virtue.....one that I do not have.

JANNETTYRACING · 02-02-2011, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 4RD H8R

OK here are the options I am considering.

Option #1 TSP 231/236 camshaft package and dyno tune
Pros- great sound and good power increase
Cons- no long tubes currently (planned for later but $$$)
Projected cost @ 1600.00

Option #2 Set of rear drag wheels and slicks
Pros- Increaed traction for quicker ET and more consistent
ET and reaction times.
Cons- More likely to break things (just bought spare set of stock axles),
probrably need a line-loc
Projected cost @ 1700.00 (incl line-loc)

Car is a 6 speed stick
Current mods- Solo cats, x pipe and flowmasters, CAI cold air intake
Future mods- both of the above + Headers, U/D pulley, 2 step, mabey a gear (4.11 or 4.33) but major $$$$,
Upgraded rear suspension.

Having to re-tune after putting headers on later will run @150.00 ish

So,input???

Looks like you will frequent the Track, As a Life time drag racer I suggest you maximize what you have now with Slicks and Gears and Line lock.

Contrary to popular belief Slicks Will SAVE your Axles by absorbing Shock.

Gears will take the Stress off your clutch and transmission.

A Set of V6 Brakes in the Rear will allow 16 inch wheels with Slicks to be bolted on.

I can certainly help you Optimize your ET and MPH with your Current Power.

Oh, I have a set of slightly used 16 inch slicks for sale by the way.

Ted.

CC Performance · 02-02-2011, 01:27 PM

Whats the budget you have to work with?
What is it about your car that you would like to improve? Is the car a daily driver or weekend toy? Question being because if you break something can you afford to go without the car until it is fixed?

c-dub · 02-02-2011, 01:40 PM

then utilize infinite money to buy all the mods you want

4SFEDSS · 02-02-2011, 01:43 PM

I KNOW YOU LOVE THE TRACK SO OPTION 2
SEEM LIKE THE WAY TO GO. BUT HOW OFTEN
YOU GETTING THERE. WITH THE CAM YOU GET
TO HEAR AND FEEL IT EVERYDAY. THATS WHY
TIRES ARE NEXT FOR ME.

Phase V · 02-02-2011, 01:45 PM

I would go for headers seeing as I'm doing the same.

4RD H8R · 02-02-2011, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

Looks like you will frequent the Track, As a Life time drag racer I suggest you maximize what you have now with Slicks and Gears and Line lock.

Contrary to popular belief Slicks Will SAVE your Axles by absorbing Shock.

Gears will take the Stress off your clutch and transmission.

A Set of V6 Brakes in the Rear will allow 16 inch wheels with Slicks to be bolted on.

I can certainly help you Optimize your ET and MPH with your Current Power.

Oh, I have a set of slightly used 16 inch slicks for sale by the way.

Ted.

Thanks for the input very much Ted. By the way, you have mail

caverman · 02-02-2011, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

Looks like you will frequent the Track, As a Life time drag racer I suggest you maximize what you have now with Slicks and Gears and Line lock.

Contrary to popular belief Slicks Will SAVE your Axles by absorbing Shock.

Gears will take the Stress off your clutch and transmission.

A Set of V6 Brakes in the Rear will allow 16 inch wheels with Slicks to be bolted on.

I can certainly help you Optimize your ET and MPH with your Current Power.

Oh, I have a set of slightly used 16 inch slicks for sale by the way.

Ted.

Hey Ted,

Do you know what the smallest wheel combo that can be used with the factory Brembo brakes in the rear?

02-02-2011, 02:31 AM	#15
Revo1 Don't Like it? Suggit. Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 14,832 View My Garage	Confused. I only see two options- camshaft or slicks... __________________ "Tops off, tach up baby- loud and proud!" A Camaro lover from day one- 1996 3.8 V6 Camaro, to 1996 5.7 LT1 Camaro Z28, to the sold 2002 5.7 LS1 Camaro SS, and NOW, a [I]6.2 L99 VR 2SS/RS: XS Power stainless full exhaust, Airaid CAI, BMR drop springs and sways, custom tune by Cal Speed- 411rwhp

02-02-2011, 12:47 PM	#20
c-dub It's that guy Drives: 2011 SIM SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hopewell VA Posts: 673 View My Garage	why not just save up a bunch of money and do everything (except the tires) at once? headers, camshaft, tune...one shot one kill! __________________ We mortals are but shadows and dust.

02-02-2011, 01:40 PM	#24
c-dub It's that guy Drives: 2011 SIM SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hopewell VA Posts: 673 View My Garage	the solution! then utilize infinite money to buy all the mods you want __________________ We mortals are but shadows and dust.

02-02-2011, 01:43 PM	#25
4SFEDSS Drives: 2010 ABM CAMARO SS Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: GA Posts: 652	I KNOW YOU LOVE THE TRACK SO OPTION 2 SEEM LIKE THE WAY TO GO. BUT HOW OFTEN YOU GETTING THERE. WITH THE CAM YOU GET TO HEAR AND FEEL IT EVERYDAY. THATS WHY TIRES ARE NEXT FOR ME. __________________ 415ci PROLINE FORGED SHORTBLOCK W/MILLED HEADS WHIPPLE SUPERCHARGER / CUSTOM CAM SHAFT LINGENFELTER TWIN FUEL PUMP / SNOW METH INJECTION YANK PYE 3400 STALL / SLP STAGE 2 BLACKWING C.A.I. ARH LONGTUBE HEADERS w/MAGNAFLOW CATBACKS HAWK PADS w/STAINLESS LINES & TRIP-DRILL ROTORS PFADT COIL SPRINGS, SWAY BARS & TRAILING ARMS 703-RWHP/685-RWTQ @ 13LBS

02-02-2011, 01:45 PM	#26
Phase V Summer Drives: 2010 2SS/RS IOM w/ Black Stripes Join Date: May 2009 Location: San Angelo, Texas Posts: 423 View My Garage	I would go for headers seeing as I'm doing the same. __________________ CAI intake, Rotofab W/W Reservoir, Hurst Shifter, Skip-Shift Eliminator AAC lighting, Kooks LT headers w/ high flow cats and Borla ATAK cat-back Restoring or need parts for a Chevy. Look no further than Don's East Coast Restorations

02-02-2011, 03:33 AM	#16
Irnwkrkev Drives: 2011 SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Miami Posts: 528	Tires. More power is only going to worsen your traction issue. Most people can't hook the car stock let alone modified. The more power you add will only increase the chance of snapping axles when you do get sticky tires. I've added some cheap mods and am at 425rwhp but can't touch the fastest bone stock times since I can't get it to hook. The prices for rims and tires is hard to swallow but would probably be the most gains for one given mod. Then some bushings and gears.... when dynoing the car my tuner was shocked how 4th topped out at 155mph. That's crazy! These cars are begging for 4.10's.

02-02-2011, 01:27 PM	#23
CC Performance Account Suspended Drives: 99 Camaro SS, 79 z28, 70 GTX Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: ST Helens, OR Posts: 1,759	Whats the budget you have to work with? What is it about your car that you would like to improve? Is the car a daily driver or weekend toy? Question being because if you break something can you afford to go without the car until it is fixed?

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