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OHIOSS · 09-04-2009, 02:54 PM

About a month ago I was sitting at a traffic light in 1st gear with the clutch in. The light changed and when I let the clutch out it did not fully extend and the whole car shook, it was like a chattering kind of shaking. I pushed the clutch in and let it out and it did the same thing. I then took it out of gear put it back into 1st gear and the clutch acted normal.

I didn't think much of it, just thought something was sticking because the car was new. Yesterday it did it again at 1900 miles but the shaking was more violent and it took me 4 times putting in and out of first to get the car moving. This time I could smell a burning smell and I assumed it was the clutch that got really hot. Shifting through the rest of the gears went fine but now when I start from a dead stop the car shakes a little bit just before the clutch pedal comes all the way out like it's slipping or something.

I have never even done a burn out in the car so its not like I have been abusing it or anything. Any idea what the problem could be? Could the clutch need some kind of adjustment? I called the dealer and they said to bring the car in next week and they will check it out. My fear is they are going to try to blame me for something that caused damage to the clutch. They can see by the tires that I haven't been doing a bunch of burn outs or anything.

Any suggestions what the problem could be? Do you think I need to worry about the dealer blaming me for something?

Russ

ddunerider · 09-04-2009, 02:57 PM

No tell them fix it its brand new Man something going on???

Fat_Tire_Custom · 09-12-2009, 09:37 PM

My LS3 M6 is doing something very similar and I have the same concerns about going into the dealership. Mine shakes really bad during partial engagement in 1st and Reverse. It didn't do it when it was new. I am very gently with my clutch at all times, so I know it was nothing I did. Makes me wonder how gentle the dealership was when they had it at 500 miles to add paint sealant and leather protector, as the clutch first started to have a tiny bit of shake around 500 miles and now at 1400 miles is emberassingly bad. Regardless of whether it was dealer abuse or mine though, this is a heavy duty tranny intended to withstand hard launches and burnouts, and is way too new to be developing any problem. We should keep in mind that people were snapping output shafts and factory dove right in to track down and isolate faulty shafts. ARNE

Fat_Tire_Custom · 09-17-2009, 02:44 PM

I had my dealer look at the clutch chatter today. He definitely felt it (just befere he killed it). He looked for any GM bulletins and didn't find any, but expects there to be one within the next couple months as more people turn in complaints about this. He also said this could be normal for a ceramic clutch disk. Does anyone know if the SS M6 has a ceramic clutch disk? Anyway, everyone with this problem, please have your dealer log the issue with GM next time you're at your dealership. Thanks, Arne

novocaine · 10-28-2009, 06:40 PM

Did you ever find anything out? My car (800 miles) just started doing the same thing.

kelleyperformance · 10-28-2009, 07:54 PM

that doesnt sound like a clutch issue to me.. at least not a physical one. if the clutch were mechanically flawed it would happen almost all the time and in reverse as well...

i first assumed maybe you were in 3rd, but seeing as that several people are expericing this i now doubt it lol. but, is everyone sure it was 1st gear??? sounds a hell of alot like what would happen if trying to get moving in a higher forward gear

lawdogg149 · 10-28-2009, 09:03 PM

Stock clutchs are not ceramic they are organic. They are very dusty too. I have since replace mine with a fidanz twin disk. Much better but now I have chatter which is expected with ceramic and twins. Had simular issues as you guys only dealership would not fix so I did. When recall comes out I will sue.

95_9C1 · 10-29-2009, 12:52 AM

CLUTCH FLUID MAINTENANCE

kelleyperformance · 10-29-2009, 12:55 AM

bad clutch fluid usually causes consistant clutch failure or difficulty getting into gears, and tends to act up more after some spirited driving or heavy slipping of the clutch (ie added heat)

Fat_Tire_Custom · 12-06-2009, 04:55 PM

I'm pretty sure I speak for everyone here when I say I do know where 1st gear is. For more recent posts, search for Smoked Clutch! post.

Michael_Js · 12-06-2009, 04:59 PM

My clutch did the once a few weeks ago. I let the clutch completely go, gave it gas, the the clutch only came up 1/2 way and I actually chirped the tires. terrible clutch burning smell too :( It hasn't happened again. I read the posts on the brake/clutch fluid, so I changed it to DOT4. Only put in can though and it looks like I could have changed out more. We'll see...the DOT4 was much lighter, almost clear, compared to the DOT3 that was in there - light brownish...

Coldpants · 12-06-2009, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kelleyperformance

that doesnt sound like a clutch issue to me.. at least not a physical one. if the clutch were mechanically flawed it would happen almost all the time and in reverse as well...

i first assumed maybe you were in 3rd, but seeing as that several people are expericing this i now doubt it lol. but, is everyone sure it was 1st gear??? sounds a hell of alot like what would happen if trying to get moving in a higher forward gear

Car will pull of in 3rd just fine no chatter no real dif from first.

09-04-2009, 02:54 PM	#1
OHIOSS Russ Drives: Yukon Denali, Charger, CamaroSS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,811	Clutch/transmission problem on SS. About a month ago I was sitting at a traffic light in 1st gear with the clutch in. The light changed and when I let the clutch out it did not fully extend and the whole car shook, it was like a chattering kind of shaking. I pushed the clutch in and let it out and it did the same thing. I then took it out of gear put it back into 1st gear and the clutch acted normal. I didn't think much of it, just thought something was sticking because the car was new. Yesterday it did it again at 1900 miles but the shaking was more violent and it took me 4 times putting in and out of first to get the car moving. This time I could smell a burning smell and I assumed it was the clutch that got really hot. Shifting through the rest of the gears went fine but now when I start from a dead stop the car shakes a little bit just before the clutch pedal comes all the way out like it's slipping or something. I have never even done a burn out in the car so its not like I have been abusing it or anything. Any idea what the problem could be? Could the clutch need some kind of adjustment? I called the dealer and they said to bring the car in next week and they will check it out. My fear is they are going to try to blame me for something that caused damage to the clutch. They can see by the tires that I haven't been doing a bunch of burn outs or anything. Any suggestions what the problem could be? Do you think I need to worry about the dealer blaming me for something? Russ

09-04-2009, 02:57 PM	#2
ddunerider So-Cal Race team!! Drives: Tahoe LTZ,2010 2SS/M6 Camaro Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Phillips Ranch ca. So-Cal Posts: 5,973 View My Garage	No tell them fix it its brand new Man something going on??? __________________ WE RACE DEEP!! BBK Intake, Flowmaster AT cat back Barton shifter,Painted stripes,,Heritage grill,LED DRLs, Smokin Tires!!

09-17-2009, 02:44 PM	#4
Fat_Tire_Custom Drives: 1972 Rally Sport, 2010 RS/SS Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: the Pacific Northwest 3300 07/20/2009 3800 7/27/09 Posts: 42 View My Garage	I had my dealer look at the clutch chatter today. He definitely felt it (just befere he killed it). He looked for any GM bulletins and didn't find any, but expects there to be one within the next couple months as more people turn in complaints about this. He also said this could be normal for a ceramic clutch disk. Does anyone know if the SS M6 has a ceramic clutch disk? Anyway, everyone with this problem, please have your dealer log the issue with GM next time you're at your dealership. Thanks, Arne Last edited by Fat_Tire_Custom; 09-17-2009 at 02:45 PM. Reason: typo (me instead of my)

10-28-2009, 06:40 PM	#5
novocaine Drives: cgm 2ss m6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: kennewick, wa Posts: 37	me, too Did you ever find anything out? My car (800 miles) just started doing the same thing.

10-28-2009, 07:54 PM	#6
kelleyperformance Drives: DD- 15' Chevy SS Sedan Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Posts: 233	that doesnt sound like a clutch issue to me.. at least not a physical one. if the clutch were mechanically flawed it would happen almost all the time and in reverse as well... i first assumed maybe you were in 3rd, but seeing as that several people are expericing this i now doubt it lol. but, is everyone sure it was 1st gear??? sounds a hell of alot like what would happen if trying to get moving in a higher forward gear __________________

09-12-2009, 09:37 PM	#3
Fat_Tire_Custom Drives: 1972 Rally Sport, 2010 RS/SS Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: the Pacific Northwest 3300 07/20/2009 3800 7/27/09 Posts: 42 View My Garage	My LS3 M6 is doing something very similar and I have the same concerns about going into the dealership. Mine shakes really bad during partial engagement in 1st and Reverse. It didn't do it when it was new. I am very gently with my clutch at all times, so I know it was nothing I did. Makes me wonder how gentle the dealership was when they had it at 500 miles to add paint sealant and leather protector, as the clutch first started to have a tiny bit of shake around 500 miles and now at 1400 miles is emberassingly bad. Regardless of whether it was dealer abuse or mine though, this is a heavy duty tranny intended to withstand hard launches and burnouts, and is way too new to be developing any problem. We should keep in mind that people were snapping output shafts and factory dove right in to track down and isolate faulty shafts. ARNE

10-28-2009, 09:03 PM	#7
lawdogg149 Drives: Corvette ZO6 CSR edition #47 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Calhoun, GA Posts: 767 View My Garage	Stock clutchs are not ceramic they are organic. They are very dusty too. I have since replace mine with a fidanz twin disk. Much better but now I have chatter which is expected with ceramic and twins. Had simular issues as you guys only dealership would not fix so I did. When recall comes out I will sue.

10-29-2009, 12:52 AM	#8
95_9C1 Drives: Pontiac G8 GXP Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: California Posts: 23	CLUTCH FLUID MAINTENANCE

10-29-2009, 12:55 AM	#9
kelleyperformance Drives: DD- 15' Chevy SS Sedan Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Posts: 233	bad clutch fluid usually causes consistant clutch failure or difficulty getting into gears, and tends to act up more after some spirited driving or heavy slipping of the clutch (ie added heat) __________________

12-06-2009, 04:55 PM	#10
Fat_Tire_Custom Drives: 1972 Rally Sport, 2010 RS/SS Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: the Pacific Northwest 3300 07/20/2009 3800 7/27/09 Posts: 42 View My Garage	I'm pretty sure I speak for everyone here when I say I do know where 1st gear is. For more recent posts, search for Smoked Clutch! post.

12-06-2009, 04:59 PM	#11
Michael_Js SoCal C5 Family Member Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS - Black w/IOM; 6M Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Diego, CA, USA Posts: 5,299 View My Garage	My clutch did the once a few weeks ago. I let the clutch completely go, gave it gas, the the clutch only came up 1/2 way and I actually chirped the tires. terrible clutch burning smell too :( It hasn't happened again. I read the posts on the brake/clutch fluid, so I changed it to DOT4. Only put in can though and it looks like I could have changed out more. We'll see...the DOT4 was much lighter, almost clear, compared to the DOT3 that was in there - light brownish... __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2010 Black 2SS/RS; 6M; IOM, GFX, sunroof; ADM Race CAI; Zoomers CB; Viper Alarm; Pdaft F&R sways, Adj Endlinks, Rtrailing arms, Camber kit, strut brace, Front Trailing Arm Bushing; SLP Skip-Shift Elim; Tinted lights/windows; Hurst Short-throw; LoJack; Door & Dash ABL Mods; ********; JBA Shorty headers; AACStyle LEDs; Stillen DS rotors, Hawk Ceramic pads; Havoc Blk Chrome wheels: 20x9s; Lingenfelter Blk Al Pedals; RevXtreme Catch Can; Goodridge SS lines; Ported TB; RK Sport hood; Hotchkis chassis brace; KW V3 coilovers;

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