Black Box Blues....

[RJTV6A]

Problem is if your right were all in big trouble.

No offense but.... WE ALL HOPE YOUR WRONG

[Wizard1183]

If you can't provide back up to the BS you wrote, don't spill jargon you know nothing about or have a hunch it's coming. That's the reason we're 16 trill in the hole??? Really??? Lay off the pipe bud. Or the LSD or bath salts. Idk. Just stop doing it and get off the net and do something constructive with your paranoid life

[patternpilot]

We all hope this never comes to fruition. The OP is correct about losing rights and freedoms every day. It is a sad fact that the liberals think we are not smart enough to make correct decisions on our own, so they enact laws to take care of that for us.
Just take a look at what is happening in New York city. Video cameras posted all over the city supposedly to watch for crime and to find criminals. How do they tell you from the criminals? Faciel recognition. Are they cataloging movements of everyone in order to tell the good guys apart from the bad? Just some food for thought.

[oldfriend]

Originally Posted by Ryanbabz71

Sale on tin foil hats in aisle 15


Ryan

No longer available , sold out .

[CookieCk]

Originally Posted by tonyko1

Okay, just as I said predicted..........a bunch of you cracking on it................and as one stated.......

"This will just bring up the same old argument about not being able to face your accuser - the same as red light cameras."

Yes, that is right, redlight cameras are still growing in number, NOT going away.

Whatever, as I said, time will tell. My personal favorite is what many ostriches state......

"On the other hand careful driver will receive a discount automatically from their insurance. See, it cuts both ways".......

Sure, just like the nazis cleaning up society by taking out the jews........"hey I aint jewish, what's the big deal?"

Okay, I am done. Back to worrying about if Adams spray wax is better than Turtle Wax and what not. That is why we are $16 TRILLION dollars in debt and owe most of it to Commie Chinese, or as Lenin stated........"the capatalists will sell us the rope we hang them by".

It is good to come here out of boredom and to block out reality, but not 24/7.

I don't know about everywhere else, but I know in my county almost all the red light cameras have been turned off and they haven't installed any new ones in a few years now.

And as for your Nazi/Jew analogy, that's a very poor comparison... There's a big difference between the mass murder of a people and the possible ticketing/charging of law breakers.

[ShowSStopper]

Originally Posted by tonyko1

Okay, just as I said predicted..........a bunch of you cracking on it................and as one stated.......

"This will just bring up the same old argument about not being able to face your accuser - the same as red light cameras."

Yes, that is right, redlight cameras are still growing in number, NOT going away.

Whatever, as I said, time will tell. My personal favorite is what many ostriches state......

"On the other hand careful driver will receive a discount automatically from their insurance. See, it cuts both ways".......

Sure, just like the nazis cleaning up society by taking out the jews........"hey I aint jewish, what's the big deal?"

Okay, I am done. Back to worrying about if Adams spray wax is better than Turtle Wax and what not. That is why we are $16 TRILLION dollars in debt and owe most of it to Commie Chinese, or as Lenin stated........"the capatalists will sell us the rope we hang them by".

It is good to come here out of boredom and to block out reality, but not 24/7.

[1SSFever]

Originally Posted by CookieCk

I don't know about everywhere else, but I know in my county almost all the red light cameras have been turned off and they haven't installed any new ones in a few years now.

We have all these red-light cameras here and I was wondering why I never hear of anyone getting ticketed from them.

Maybe thats why.

[wullger]

We're still waiting on a source for your post.

[snaphappy]

Whether this is true or false, you have an option if you don't want to be controlled and manipulated by technology - stop using it.

In this case, drive an older car. Stop complaining you're in the Matrix when it's so obvious you're not making an effort to get out

[Z28COP]

:upset::upset:

[epatrone]

I am LE and there is no such thing as a black box automatically kicking tickets out and so on. If someone calls you to pay a fine you are an idiot because you are being scammed. The black box is in a vehicle and is only used for data just prior to an accident that results in a fatal. Even then the police need a search warrant to get the 30 second information before the crash. There are cameras in our vehicles and they can only store up to 40hrs of data so it would be a expensive unit for a box to hold a lifetime of data and a search warrant is always necessary for information taken from a private owner. It is called the fourth Amendment. To add most vehicles produced today have these boxes.

[Vroom_vroom]

On star is a joke to begin with, the Nevada supreme courts had a case a few years back. The just of it was the feds used the Onstar to record conversations on two suspected drug dealers with out there knowledge. One supreme court justice upheld the recordings and it helped incarcerate them. As a side note a second supreme court judges noted in the case file that the" FBI was not in the business if road side assistance and had no business utilizing Onstar recordings"
They don't have the memory to record a life time of info but in Australia there have been cases of using Onstar to issue speeding tickets without an officer present.
Can you say thank you socialism, but with our pinko commie president we are not too far off. Be weary.

-rant over


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[Brandonmos]

OP's accusations seem nuts, but being in a foreign country (middle east) and watching the locals and what they have power over in their lives, will definitely make you realize how limited we are in the US. This is from a lower enlisted soldier- the most controlled and freedom lacking person in society :P

[Stealth6]

Here it is.....

http://www.pcworld.com/article/25415..._new_cars.html

Mandatory ‘Big Brother’ Black Boxes In All New Cars From 2015


Provision is part of controversial MAP-21 bill expected to pass House
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Wednesday, April 18, 2012
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A bill already passed by the Senate and set to be rubber stamped by the House would make it mandatory for all new cars in the United States to be fitted with black box data recorders from 2015 onwards.
Section 31406 of Senate Bill 1813 (known as MAP-21), calls for “Mandatory Event Data Recorders” to be installed in all new automobiles and legislates for civil penalties to be imposed against individuals for failing to do so.
“Not later than 180 days after the date of enactment of this Act, the Secretary shall revise part 563 of title 49, Code of Federal Regulations, to require, beginning with model year 2015, that new passenger motor vehicles sold in the United States be equipped with an event data recorder that meets the requirements under that part,” states the bill.
Although the text of legislation states that such data would remain the property of the owner of the vehicle, the government would have the power to access it in a number of circumstances, including by court order, if the owner consents to make it available, and pursuant to an investigation or inspection conducted by the Secretary of Transportation.
Given the innumerable examples of both government and industry illegally using supposedly privacy-protected information to spy on individuals, this represents the slippery slope to total Big Brother surveillance of every American’s transport habits and location data.
The legislation, which has been given the Orwellian title ‘Moving Ahead for Progress in the 21st Century Act’, sailed through the Senate after being heavily promoted by Democrats Harry Reid and Barbara Boxer and is also expected to pass the Republican-controlled House.

Given the fact that the same bill also includes a controversial provision that would empower the IRS to revoke passports of citizens merely accused of owing over $50,000 in back taxes, stripping them of their mobility rights, could the mandatory black boxes or a similar technology be used for the same purpose?

Biometric face-recognition and transdermol sensor technology that prevents an inebriated person from driving a car by disabling the automobile has already been developed, in addition to systems that refuse to allow the vehicle to start if the driver is deemed to be overtired.

The ultimate Big Brother scenario would be a system whereby every driver had to get de facto permission from the state to drive each time they get behind the wheel, once it had been determined from an iris scan that they were good citizens who have paid all their taxes and not misbehaved.
The push to pressure car manufacturers to install black box tracking devices in all new cars has been ongoing for over a decade. In 2006, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration encouraged but did not require automobile manufacturers to install the systems.
However, in February last year NHTSA administrator David Strickland said the government was considering making the technology mandatory in the wake of recalls of millions of Toyota vehicles.
Earlier this year it was reported that the NHTSA would soon formally announce that all new cars would be mandated to have the devices fitted by law, which has now been codified into the MAP-21 bill.