2011 v8 camaro + nitrous?

[rukasu]

hello people, regards from Brazil

my question is simple:

i have a 2011 v8 camaro, and I want to put some nitrous system.

my question is: can I put it with stock motor? I'll put something about 50hp and after get some experience 100hp

will my car motor resist(of course it will deteriorate faster, I know, but it can broke?)? or should I put forged piston and connecting rod?

sorry bad English, I'm improving it

[mikeyg36]

You can run nitrous on a stock engine. Just don't do anything too crazy and make sure the car is tuned by a reputable tuner.

[Supercharged SS]

Originally Posted by rukasu

hello people, regards from Brazil

my question is simple:

i have a 2011 v8 camaro, and I want to put some nitrous system.

my question is: can I put it with stock motor? I'll put something about 50hp and after get some experience 100hp

will my car motor resist(of course it will deteriorate faster, I know, but it can broke?)? or should I put forged piston and connecting rod?

sorry bad English, I'm improving it

Forged parts won't keep it from breaking. Make sure you have a good tune and enough fuel. That's what separates the pros from the arm chair tuners. Even a 50 shot can destroy a motor with a bad tune. 100 is fine on the stock setup.

[rukasu]

Originally Posted by mikeyg36

You can run nitrous on a stock engine. Just don't do anything too crazy and make sure the car is tuned by a reputable tuner.

so i have diablo sport predator + k&n filter intake

I'll just use nitrous in racecourse

it will damage less than turbo or others cause will work only for track day

thanks

[axis]

Originally Posted by rukasu

so i have diablo sport predator + k&n filter intake

I'll just use nitrous in racecourse

it will damage less than turbo or others cause will work only for track day

thanks

Depending on how much nitrous you're wanting to run, the predator tune won't do you much good. You really need to have it professionally tuned with the nitrous and a good nitrous system.

I'd HIGHLY suggest you visit the FI section and read up on nitrous setups.

[Supercharged SS]

Originally Posted by rukasu

so i have diablo sport predator + k&n filter intake

I'll just use nitrous in racecourse

it will damage less than turbo or others cause will work only for track day

thanks

Nitrous, when done right, is no more dangerous than a turbo or supercharger. Ditch those crappy parts you have now.

[SlowTurtle]

I sprayed 225 on a stock motor for a long long time. Cold plugs + low timing and it will run forever

[mikeyg36]

Originally Posted by rukasu

so i have diablo sport predator + k&n filter intake

I'll just use nitrous in racecourse

it will damage less than turbo or others cause will work only for track day

thanks

No. You need a professional tune not one of those cheap canned tunes. A dyno tune is preferable but I'm not sure if that's an option in Brazil. If it isn't get a remote tune froma reputable tuner.

[Ajdin@A2BMotorsport]

Just get it tuned by a good tuner. Ill be running a custom grind cam + supporting mods/ headers/ exhaust with a 100 shot. As long as your tuner is good you will be fine.

Adding a WOT Switch and a Window Switch will add some insurance.

[thahemp]

I'm gonna go against the grain here. I wouldn't tune for the nitrous if I were you. There is no reason you have to sacrifice power 90% of the time so you can run nitrous every once in a while. Pick up an LNC-2000 to retard timing while your system is armed and keep your NA tune.

[thahemp]

Here is what I am putting in my car currently.

wet plate system
NOS mini controller (window switch)
LNC-2000 (timing retard + 2 step launch if you don't have cats)
fuel pressure safety switch
wideband O2

I should say... you can use the LNC-2000 instead of a tune if you're running a wet kit. If you're using a dry kit, then you'll have to tune for the nitrous.

[dan0617]

Originally Posted by thahemp

Here is what I am putting in my car currently.

wet plate system
NOS mini controller (window switch)
LNC-2000 (timing retard + 2 step launch if you don't have cats)
fuel pressure safety switch
wideband O2

I should say... you can use the LNC-2000 instead of a tune if you're running a wet kit. If you're using a dry kit, then you'll have to tune for the nitrous.

I agree with the wet kit and LNC2000. Go with cold, non projected tip plugs (like the Denso IT22's) gapped at .028. Set the LNC2000 to retard 2 degrees per 50 shot and use the jets suggested for a car that has 58 psi fuel pressure, and maybe a size or 1/2 size bigger on the fuel jet to be safe. This is critical as jet sizes need changed with fuel pressure variances. When you install the kit, make it so the fuel feed line from the solenoid to the nozzle is as SHORT as possible, definitely less than 2'. This will reduce the lean spike on activation. This is critical on returnless fuel systems, and more and more critical as the shit size gets bigger. Build a bracket to mount solenoid close to nozzle if you have to. The shorter the better.

Next and best step is to get a way to datalog, get a wideband gauge, then dial in the timing and the fueling. I would stay at about a 100 shot until you can monitor for spark knock and AFR. Once you can do that, I would not be afraid of a 150 to 175 shot. Just keep richening up your target AFR by about 0.3 for each 50 shot as nitrous Fuel ratio is lower than air fuel ratio and your gauge is calibrated in air.

[thahemp]

Originally Posted by dan0617

I agree with the wet kit and LNC2000. Go with cold, non projected tip plugs (like the Denso IT22's) gapped at .028. Set the LNC2000 to retard 2 degrees per 50 shot and use the jets suggested for a car that has 58 psi fuel pressure, and maybe a size or 1/2 size bigger on the fuel jet to be safe. This is critical as jet sizes need changed with fuel pressure variances. When you install the kit, make it so the fuel feed line from the solenoid to the nozzle is as SHORT as possible, definitely less than 2'. This will reduce the lean spike on activation. This is critical on returnless fuel systems, and more and more critical as the shit size gets bigger. Build a bracket to mount solenoid close to nozzle if you have to. The shorter the better.

Next and best step is to get a way to datalog, get a wideband gauge, then dial in the timing and the fueling. I would stay at about a 100 shot until you can monitor for spark knock and AFR. Once you can do that, I would not be afraid of a 150 to 175 shot. Just keep richening up your target AFR by about 0.3 for each 50 shot as nitrous Fuel ratio is lower than air fuel ratio and your gauge is calibrated in air.

Exactly how I have mine set up. Wideband and fuel pressure on the A pillar. 1' lines from solenoids to plate. 2 degrees per 50 shot. I would also get the vette fuel line to replace the goofy crossover. Flip the fuel rail and use the short feed line.

[BplumCrazy-SS]

here is my kit I'm working on now