06-13-2013, 04:43 PM | #15 |
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That would be fine, many people have done coilovers only and been very happy.
if you had other funds free and wanted a couple idea's on what else would work well with the coilovers let me know |
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There you have it! Pedders knows suspension! Double G, I have an almost brand new Pedders 32mm Option C rear sway bar with custom welded gussets on the control arms. Pete set this up when i had my Justice package installed a while back. I just went with the ZL1 rear sway from pedders. I will make you a killer deal on it. Its $450 new. I will let you have it for A LOT less. With the custom welded lower control arms. PM Pete and he will tell you about it.
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06-14-2013, 02:24 AM | #17 | |
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06-15-2013, 01:28 AM | #19 |
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BC Racing Coilovers are the best bang for the buck.
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06-15-2013, 02:32 PM | #20 | |
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What is the best bang for the buck is dependent on the usage and the owner / driver. If all the drivers were equal in skill and experience they would have different opinions. Take a read of the Z/28 threads. The opinion of the car runs from a Perfect 10 to Under- Featured Overpriced 0. Funny thing is, depending on how you use your Camaro they are both right. Running road courses 10 times a year is an intense schedule. 20 times a year is HARDCORE. Road Course Suspension Starter Package Sub-Frame Bushes Radius Bushes Z Style Sway Bar Conversion Full Alignment Bolt Kit Sway bars are normally the final tuning element, but the change in geometry with the Z bar compared to the 2010 inboard mounted bar is enormous. Adjustable camber plates would be a must have so you can drive to the track on a tire friendly alignment, switch to a track alignment and then back to street. Are you really planning 10 or more track events a year? If you have watched the development of the ZL1, 1LE and Z/28 you have also seen how closely the cars resemble Pedders development cars going back to 2009. Pedders fits 305/30/19 to all four corners. Other suspension companies point and laugh. Oops. We beat them all at the OPTIMA Invitational. To make matters worse for them Chevrolet releases the Z/28 with 305/30/19s. December 2009 Pedders fits CTS-V six pots to our developmental Camaro. In 2012 the ZL1 is released with CTS-V six pots. The ZL1 is released with 25mm front and 28mm rear solid sways bars for optimum strength. With a front to rear differential of 3mm it is the most aggressive sway bar fitment from Chevrolet for the 5th Gen, but lags behind Pedders 27mm front and 32mm rear solid bars. The 1LE is released with a 27mm front sway bar only three years after Pedders first released our 27mm front bar. The 5th Gen is released and so are the aftermarket 'must have' strut tower bars. Pedders tells the C5 community there is no documented performance benefit to a strut tower bar. Not a single suspension company can document any performance gain. Car & Driver partners with an independent engineering firm with a four wheel shaker. The first article confirms Pedders position. Last, but by no means least, Pedders has invited every brand suspension company to beat us in the OPTIMA Street Car Series. We tell them exactly how we built our Camaros, what the RWHP is, what the alignment is, what our spring rates are... Pedders has never finished behind any current generation Mustang, Challenger or Camaro at an OPTIMA event on a road course. NEVER. Bang-for-the-Buck to me is being faster than the other guy. There is only one company that fits that description. What the other companies do is talk about being fast. I get tired of reading about engineering this or racing that when the only place we se them is in our rear view mirror. There will come a day when they man up and bring a car out that beats Pedders. When that day comes I'll tip my hat and say well done. Until that day comes, Pedders is the technology, performance and engineering leader for 5th Gen Camaro suspension. What happens next is some of the vendors will complain about this post. What will they complain about? Pedders is bragging too much. Pedders posted the index to the Camaro Book. Pedders told everyone the truth about strut tower bars making it harder for me to sell them There is a wealth of information in Pedders Book of 5th Gen. Take some time to read through it so you can make informed buying decisions. Pedders 2010 Chevrolet Camaro Suspension Evaluation Foundational 5th Gen Required Upgrades Lowering Coils and Coilovers Trouble Free, OEM Quiet V6 Lowering Sway Bars Suspension Bushes ZL1 / CTS-V Brake Upgrade for the SS Wheels and Tires Bush Timing, Alignment and Torque Specs Pedders USA Camaro 2.0 Lingenfelter L/28 Tech 5th Gen Wheel Hop and Drag Race Setup Thermal Management Running Changes Made to the 5th Gen by Chevrolet Public Track Test #1 Public Track Test #2 Camaro vs. Mustang Supercar Shootout 2013 Strut Mounts, Pedders Coilover Pre-Compression and Ride Height Settings Caution: Test driving any Pedderised vehicle can be dangerous. Pedderised vehicles have been known to induce suspension envy and sleepless nights filled with longing. Before test-driving any Pedderised vehicle, check with your banking and accounting professionals. Pedderised vehicles are known to induce credit card bills and reduced bank balances. There is no antidote. Only genuine Pedders can cure Suspension Envy. |
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06-15-2013, 03:00 PM | #21 |
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10-20 road course weekends a year is a pretty good schedule man. You would benefit from one of the better known brands are what i would recommend. Bang for the buck isnt what i worry about its more safety and predictability in the best product that will take the abuse.
The posts that Mr Pete has made alone makes me feel like I have a docotorate in engineering and a suspension guru. If you like Mr. Petes advice go with him!
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MOST important thing stated here IMHO! Im no Pedders fanboy nor am i a customer........yet but they are proving their product with track results so it seems to be a done deal! On a side note Pete have you ever done any 1/4 mile testing to see what adding just suspension parts on a otherwise stock 5th gen would gain? |
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06-15-2013, 08:49 PM | #23 |
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I can say Pete knows his stuff.
I take my car to a road course a few times a year, and with Pedders parts, and Pete's help with alignment it handles as good as the Porsches in the corners and leaves them on the straightaways.
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06-15-2013, 09:58 PM | #24 | |
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Yes sir. We worked with Lingenfelter on their Black Pig. We replaced a brand-x set of drag coilovers with an off the shelf set of Supercars. The immediate result was a gain of 2/10s in the 60'. LPE is phenomenal to work with. Their years of drag racing and data collection are invaluable. We refined our Supercars into a finished product sold exclusively through Lingenfelter. The end result was a gain of 3/10ths over brand-x drag coilovers. |
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06-16-2013, 09:13 AM | #25 |
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Here's my theory. It doesn't matter if it's guns, cars, house work or anything.
1) Allowed or estimated budget. 2) Expectations from the money spent. This typically works well for me unless I take an unexpected left hand turn changing directions in the middle of a project. I've learned over the years to buy the best that I can afford otherwise I end-up spending the money again upgrading parts (I hate spending money twice re-buying parts, but it happens). It's an individual thing, everyone has a different situation, budget, and expectation. Sort of like the "need / want" struggle. Good luck to the OP
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06-17-2013, 10:53 AM | #26 |
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Good advice
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06-17-2013, 03:53 PM | #27 |
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i was already planning on getting pedders but after reading pete's post #20 i want to get a second set and put them on my bed or something.
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