05-30-2012, 07:34 PM | #1 |
HELP - m6 Clutch .. Whats the real fix.
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Can anybody tell me what I can replace to fix the launch issue? (stock other than cat back exhaust) The story if interested: clutch sticks on aggresive starts.. .. dealer replace pedal assembly... now I have a vibration in the pedal (feels like something grinding at the end of the release)...dealer says it's normal.. contacted GM help line.. got a ticket opened.. GM rep - after talking with your dealer we feel the car is performing as designed.... ME - so its designed to kill me if I try pull into traffic and the pedal sticks to the floor and I get t-boned... GM rep -..................... ok Can anybody tell me what I can replace to fix the launch issue? Any and all adive appreciated. (trying to get ready for CamaroFest)
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05-30-2012, 09:19 PM | #2 |
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McLeod RXT or RPS Street Slayer twin disc.....sorry, its what needs to be done if you drive this car the way it was meant to be driven....thank GM
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05-30-2012, 09:38 PM | #3 |
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hit up Hendrix Engineering for a street slayer clutch.
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05-30-2012, 09:50 PM | #4 | |
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At stock power levels, I need to ask a couple of questions... When was the last time the clutch was bled... What does the fluid in the reservoir look like... Do you have the separate reservoir..... The clutch and the brakes are on the same res... There have been a lot of people with this problem that went to a separate reservoir and bled the fluid. If it hasn't been done yet, I would look for a remote res, and a remote bleeder hose. This makes it much easier to bleed the clutch on a regular basis. I would try these before going for a whole new clutch... provided, the clutch isn't slipping... I can't imagine why the pedal assembly install would make a different feel, but I guess it's possible... Have you considered a different dealership to see what they come up with... Good Luck
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05-30-2012, 09:55 PM | #5 |
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My car is a v6 but I had a similar issue where if I had it revved up for some power the pedal would stick about half way. I took it to the dealer last week and they replaced the clutch pedal and so far I haven't had any issues and the clutch felt really loose at first. It didn't do it really often before so I'm a little worried based on your post but we shall see.
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05-31-2012, 07:34 AM | #6 |
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They are probably installing the ZL1 clutch pedal because it has a better return spring to bring the pedal back.
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05-31-2012, 07:49 AM | #7 | |
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Prior to start of regular changes fluid was dark like coffee.. now never darker than weak tea.. Vibration is felt at two times.. end of release on acceleration and start of push to shift gears..you can also feel the vibration lightly pushing the clutch while driving.. This is my daily driver and there was no vibration prior to pedal change. I Wanted open topic with GM before going to different dealer.. But I think I will get a different dealers opinion.
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05-31-2012, 07:52 AM | #8 | |
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I'l be trying to stick the pedal soon no purpose.. but more worred about my new found vibration .... I think the bearing is going bad now ?? just a thought ?? but never felt any vibration before.
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There is a guy selling better master cylinders. Also fluid change is very important
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05-31-2012, 07:33 PM | #11 |
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Get a clutch return spring from Lingerfelter.
Often caused by bubbles in the line. Try pumping the clutch 15 or 20 times next time it happens to bleed the line and slave cylinder. It is self bleeding. Some problems caused by wrong clutch sleeve. GM knows this. Sooner or later it will probably start leaking and you will have to replace the slave cylinder. $1,100.00 for non-warranty work. Ask me how I know. GM denies warranty for practically any add on parts. It is Bull. I just sued them under Mangusen Moss and they paid all expenses plus $750.00 attorney fees to settle. |
06-04-2012, 09:59 PM | #12 |
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My camaro is going into the dealer after I smoked the hell of out of the clutch when the pedal stuck down. They are replacing the clutch and the pedal assembly. But if this isn't going to fix the problem then maybe I should just have a street slayer clutch installed. I want to fix it right and fix it the first time. My clutch fluid is clean and when it stuck on me it was a cool day after only mild driving before hand. I don't think remote resiviors or return springs are the problem as its never given me problems on even the hottest of days.
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06-04-2012, 10:20 PM | #13 |
i just got mine back from the dealer two weeks ago doing the exact same thing.
New clutch pedal assembly as you have, but it continued to stick halfway up and the dealer's tech smoked the clutch coming back from the test drive (Had to be towed back). Needless to say trans had to come out. Clutch, 2 gears, syncros all replaced. Plus they filled it with synthetic gear oil when they put it back together. They had the car 16 days. Feels like a completely different car now... Push your dealer on this... The car has a warranty and GM should honor it... I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this did the trick. |
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06-05-2012, 02:58 PM | #14 |
FINAL RESPONSE FROM GM (via 2nd dealer):
Yes you have a vibration in your clutch pedal but Your NON oem Exhaust (Flowmaster) is causing the clutch pedal vibration... and Direct Response from Customer Service Rep: Thank you for the update. Unfortunately, it sounds like it is an aftermarket exhaust system to increase performance. Some aftermarket engine performance products and modifications promise a way to increase the horsepower and torque levels of a vehicle's powertrain. The products may have detrimental effects on the performance and life of the engine, exhaust, emission system, transmission, and drivetrain. Engine power enhancement products may enable the engine to operate at horsepower and torque levels that could damage, create failure, or reduce the life of the engine, engine emission system, transmission and drivetrain. Damage, failure, or reduced life of the engine, transmission emission system, drivetrain or other vehicle components caused by aftermarket engine performance enhancement products or modifications cannot be covered under the vehicle warranty or GMPP plan. Please let me know if you have any other questions.
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