04-10-2008, 05:38 PM | #1 |
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Automatic Transmission concern...
I don't remember where I read it, but I could swear that I read somewhere the 'maro gets a 6 speed auto.
Lets just assume it does, and lets just assume it ends up being the same auto that is in the G8 GT. Well, here's the concern, I check up on the G8 forums every now and then to see how people like the zeta platform, and check up on the L76 (in case we end up with that under the hood...). Anyway, onto the point, a few guys over there have complained about the shift speed in sport mode, and driver controlled mode, they say its rather slow... any chance this will be sped up a bit on our cars? |
04-10-2008, 07:32 PM | #2 |
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I'm almost positive it will. The automatic mustangs slugish shift issue was adressed with the performance tune. And if not, Im sure a company like level 10 could hook you up. Furthermore, this is the same auto thats in the corvette and I don't think they are having problems with it?
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04-10-2008, 07:52 PM | #3 |
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It is the same Transmission as the 'Vette: The Hydramatic 6L80.
The early auto Corvettes had a sluggish shift time, I guess, when using the paddles. You'd have to shift anywhere from 500 to 700 rpms early so that you wouldn't hit the redline, have the fuel cut-off kick in, and generally kill your times. '08 they fixed that, and the magazine testers reported a noticeable "crispness" to the auto that wasn't there in the LS2 'Vettes. In the LS3 Corvette, 0-60 times differ between the two trannys in that the Manual is only .1 seconds faster to 60 mph than the Automatic. I don't know about you...but I think that's impressive. Of course, I don't belong to any G8 sites, nor do I know anybody who has one, but I haven't heard of this issue before now. This could, of course, be people who've driven Manuals all their lives, or people who will try and find a problem with everything....OR it could be a legitimate problem. I don't think GM would skimp on anything with the Camaro, though. |
04-10-2008, 08:08 PM | #4 |
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You're probly right, most likely the same people that were crying because there was no manual in the G8.
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04-10-2008, 08:19 PM | #5 |
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Back in the old days...when i had a First Gen car, you could purchase a relatively inexpensive item called a "Shift-Kit" that essentially consisted of a thin sheet of metal that you placed between the valve body of the tranny and the base. If I recall, you also removed some small bearings. The end result was much quicker shifting and in fact you could chirp the tires when you hit second gear. Which was always really cool to do in an automatic.
Does anyone know if these types of upgrades are available on today's automatics? Ron |
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some people who have 4th gen t/a's have a "performance mode" shift button on the center console that firms up the shifting points. as for the shift kits today, they do the same thing they did back in the day, they reroute the fluid going thru the tranny. if anyone has ever pulled the pan off an auto and looked at the maze underneath its a wonder how it all works. but the shift kit plates allow fluid thru certain passages as well as some having upgraded springs and solenoids so you can choose your level of performance
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04-10-2008, 09:19 PM | #7 |
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Wait, by sport mode do we mean a more aggressive automatic mode or manual shifting? I usually refer to the first as "sport mode" and the second as "manual mode" but it seems that we're using them interchangeably here. Manual modes on true automatics are generally pretty slow, but "sport" mode should be pretty fast.
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04-10-2008, 09:26 PM | #8 |
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sport mode meaning manual shifting, or sometimes called something like "manu-matic" i think.
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04-10-2008, 10:24 PM | #9 |
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Sport mode can mean a couple of things, really...
The Automatics GM now uses ('cept the 4 speed) all have (in some form or another) a "P", "R", "N", "D", and "S" mode. When in "D" it's acts as your normal Automatic. In "S" mode (Sport/Performace), the more advanced tranny's learn your driving technique, and adapt to know when to shift, and when not to. For instance, when you let off the gas to go around a corner? It won't shift into OD. Also in "S" mode, you can press the paddles, tap the shifter, etc to change gears. From the first tap/pull/push, the shifting from then on is driver controlled. To end this feature, you need to shift back into "D". This is how I understand it works in the Corvette. |
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D: just what you think it is. Sport: A more aggressive, fully automatic mode that you access by moving the shifter over to the right into the manual mode area but don't tap up or down. Manual: In this mode the transmission will not upshift itself, it'll just bounce off the rev limiter until you notice. I think it will automatically downshift to 2nd at a stop. It might downshift earlier if the alternative is to lug and stall (uphill at 20mph in 6th). It will also refuse to downshift if that would push the engine over the redline. I think that GM will try to make the feel Camaro sportier than the G8. So the Camaro’s A6 will probably get a more aggressive tune, more like the Corvette’s. |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct-Shift_Gearbox http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequential_manual_gearbox They're pretty impressive technology.
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and those of you who want paddle shifters for your gm transmission
http://www.retrotekspeed.com/product...th-f1-paddles/ 1500 bucks aint a bad price to get paddle shifting. however 4l60e owners will need to purchase an additional control harness to plug into the computer as after 94 our trannys were computer controlled
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