CTS V coupe vs 2014 GT500

[Truck Norris]

Plus this GT500's 116.59 mph trap speed is still faster then the v's 116.23 mph

Are we talking cars are driving skill here? Either way the GT500 ran faster speed not quicker then this V and it gained more mph after the 1/8.

[sspolo]

It seems like you jumped the gun, although I don't know much about drag racing.

[Ohio Snake]

Originally Posted by Grabber

Pretty sure the 2013 GT500 already went 11.6-11.7 STOCK @ 123-125 multiple times.

That is not a '13 or '14 GT500. It is a'10 thru '12 GT500 and that year model ran low 12's stock with a decent driver. Look at the tail lights, definitely not current GT500 with 5.8l Trinity motor.
The caddy LS motor and a 5.4l Condor motor run very close quarter mile times against each other and have similar stock HP.


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[tones2SS]

Don't get me wrong, I love those V cars, but you had an aftermarket cai and a tune running up against a stock GT500, correct? You're not getting a bunch from the cai, but the tune is probably helping you out a bunch.
If the stang had a JLT Big Air and a tune, it would have been different. That's just my opinion. Nice racing though.

[Q'smuscle]

Originally Posted by NVmyZL1

Not a 13 or 14 GT500. Even of it was, having experience driving a 2007 version of the GT500 does not mean he auto matically knows how to drive the latter version to a good time. There is a night and day difference between them. I know, I've owned both.

Agree, not a 2014 or a 13 mustang

[right to travel]

Originally Posted by Truck Norris

Plus this GT500's 116.59 mph trap speed is still faster then the v's 116.23 mph

Are we talking cars are driving skill here? Either way the GT500 ran faster speed not quicker then this V and it gained more mph after the 1/8.

A little of both I went and looked around the interwebs for videos of actual runs at the strip and "other" places. Seemed very rare to see a V lose in either case stock v stock against 12 and earlier gt500. as far as the 13+, with 100 less hp and 200-300 lbs extra weight the V should be a pretty easy kill but its more of a drivers race which if the gt500 driver brings his A game should win.

[Truck Norris]

^
Races between those two usually go down like this during magazine testing.

[hockeylover86]

A 13/14 5.8 GT500 will walk a CTSV with a tune pretty easily, the Shelby in that video was a 10-11-12 with the 5.4

[trainman]

Originally Posted by Ohio Snake

I looked at that video really close at the beginning...especially the tail lights. I am pretty sure that is not a 2014 or 2013 GT500. Those years had the led tail lights. The 2010- 2012 GT500 had that style depicted in the video. I would guess that car to be 2010-2012 which has similar HP rating to the CTS-V, hence the closeness of the race and the CTS-v pulling off the win.


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It was definitely a 2014 (per the owner) because it had the Perf. Pack wheels and the owner said it had the track pack also. I shopped the GT500 before deciding to buy the CTS V. I preferred the looks and interior over the mustang (although the 662 hp was tempting). The owner had owned a previous 2007 GT500 that he traded in for this one. It was ordered the way it sits with every option but the glass roof. He was not a bad driver, remember the temperature was still 98.1 degrees at 10pm, the DA was 3,500+, none of the cars were turning great times. My CTS V was about .5 sec and 3 mph slower than when the DA was 1,200' in May. The GT500 made 2 other passes (all about the same speed) and on the run against me he was .36 mph faster (116.59 vs 116.23).

[trainman]

Originally Posted by hockeylover86

A 13/14 5.8 GT500 will walk a CTSV with a tune pretty easily, the Shelby in that video was a 10-11-12 with the 5.4

Wrong. It was a 2014. I think the 285 stock tires(on the GT500) may have helped me win. It was 3 weeks old and that was his first 1/4 mile pass in the car.

[trainman]

Originally Posted by Ohio Snake

That is not a '13 or '14 GT500. It is a'10 thru '12 GT500 and that year model ran low 12's stock with a decent driver. Look at the tail lights, definitely not current GT500 with 5.8l Trinity motor.
The caddy LS motor and a 5.4l Condor motor run very close quarter mile times against each other and have similar stock HP.


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Yes it was, I saw the 5.8 on the blower when he had the hood up after our run.

[trainman]

Originally Posted by sspolo

It seems like you jumped the gun, although I don't know much about drag racing.

Watch the video again...the light was GREEN not RED...my Reaction time on the slip was .002.....so I was .003 from going red....I knew I had to push the tree to have a chance....and a .002 light is just "LUCKY"....but that's drag racing.

[trainman]

Originally Posted by tones2SS

Don't get me wrong, I love those V cars, but you had an aftermarket cai and a tune running up against a stock GT500, correct? You're not getting a bunch from the cai, but the tune is probably helping you out a bunch.
If the stang had a JLT Big Air and a tune, it would have been different. That's just my opinion. Nice racing though.

The CAI does help. Pure stock the CTS V was 458 rwhp @ 6,200 rpm (factory rev limiter) after tune only it made 491 rwhp @ 6,550 (483 rwhp @ 6,200). After adding the AIRAID CAI it made 515.6 rwhp @ 6,550. I power shift (no-lift shift) @ 6,600. I admit I probably drove a little better than the GT500 although his .304 light was not bad. I have been drag racing stick shift cars since 1964....so a little experience. I realize the driver mod can make a real difference.

Here's another example from a year ago with my SRT-10 Ram....A guy from the LA Area was challenging my friend (who shot the video of my CTSV vs the GT500) who has a GT500 (2011) with his new Z06(LS7) with drag radials. The Z06 driver had a license plate that read "SN8K KLR". He wanted my friend's fender "cobras" if he won the race. My friend declined, so I said "why don't you run my truck, it's got a Viper engine, that's a snake" . He said the truck had no chance...it wasn't a fair race. I said you'd be surprised...and his friends said "Race the truck". They are the ones who shot the video below. Anyway he had a .728 RT to my .017 RT and he had a 12.59 ET @ 119+ to my truck's 11.67 @ 118, so I won by over 15 truck lengths.....but I know there will be guys who chime in and say a stock Z06 will run low 11's (which is true) but this guy didn't and neither did the GT500 guy against my CTS V.

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[hockeylover86]

Originally Posted by trainman

It was definitely a 2014 (per the owner) because it had the Perf. Pack wheels and the owner said it had the track pack also. I shopped the GT500 before deciding to buy the CTS V. I preferred the looks and interior over the mustang (although the 662 hp was tempting). The owner had owned a previous 2007 GT500 that he traded in for this one. It was ordered the way it sits with every option but the glass roof. He was not a bad driver, remember the temperature was still 98.1 degrees at 10pm, the DA was 3,500+, none of the cars were turning great times. My CTS V was about .5 sec and 3 mph slower than when the DA was 1,200' in May. The GT500 made 2 other passes (all about the same speed) and on the run against me he was .36 mph faster (116.59 vs 116.23).

If it was a 14 I don't think it was as much the heat as it was him learning a new car. Heat would have affected both cars similarly. Don't get me wrong, I love the V's (and will probably have one some day) but as the cars sit he should still have 80-100 whp more than you. One thing is for sure, you can sure drive that V!