Is there 100% confirmation that previous tunes can be detected? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Mustang Killa · 01-26-2010, 04:47 PM

I've been reading all of these tune posts and it seems like someone gives a confident answer someone else rebutles it..so once the factory tune is restored do we know 100% yet whether or not It can be detected and to what extent? Would it look the same as if I were to clear the computer from a trouble code?? I also see a few tuners online saying theirs restore untraceable, is this confirmed or is it only speculated?

I'm about to pull the trigger on some longtubes and intake just getting jittery on it because of the tune..I can always throw stock bolt ons back on.

Thanks ahead of time for the input

tjbusa · 01-26-2010, 06:19 PM

As much as I've read into the matter, the answer is no, as long as your able to restore your stock tune, you should be fine. I will either get a custom dyno tune or a diablo sport tune with the aid of TED or Lew. I am just waiting on my Camaro to let me know its ready. A check engine light (CEL) is what I'm waiting on. 400 miles on my long tubes and no problem. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58363
Thousands have already tuned theirs, go with a reputable tuner and have the ability to put the stock tune back if the need arises. I will more than likely go with a Diablo sport due to this fact and a boatload of hand helds out there give you a 93 octane tune but can't dial in extra hp for your long tubes.

BackinBlackSS/RS · 01-26-2010, 06:28 PM

I say the answer is no. Until someone personally has detected the tune, or have seen it in person done, I would say the question of can it or can't it is still up in the air. My guess is even if you return to stock it probably can be detected but it would not be easy to determine by your average gm tech. I mean they can't even figure out how to update my PDIM, so their answer is to order a new one.

Mustang Killa · 01-26-2010, 06:30 PM

I am 90% goin with custom tune, i had bad experience with a superchips handhelp with my LS1 ta.

BackinBlackSS/RS · 01-26-2010, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustang Killa

I am 90% goin with custom tune, i had bad experience with a superchips handhelp with my LS1 ta.

Yeah, I would stay away from a handheld where you cannot get anything but their canned tunes. At least with the predator you can get custom tunes.

tjbusa · 01-26-2010, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BackinBlackSS/RS

Yeah, I would stay away from a handheld where you cannot get anything but their canned tunes. At least with the predator you can get custom tunes.

And dialed in by data loging

BackinBlackSS/RS · 01-26-2010, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tjbusa

And dialed in by data loging

Steve@Vectormotorsports · 01-27-2010, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustang Killa

I am 90% goin with custom tune, i had bad experience with a superchips handhelp with my LS1 ta.

We would be glad to help you with your tuning solutions.

06MonteSS · 01-27-2010, 09:38 PM

the diablosport predator/trinity are proven not to leave any signs of activity...

as long as you restore the original backup stock tune back to the vehicle before you bring it in for any service work, they can not tell a thing... they'll never know it was ever there...

has been tested by GM service guru's, and can't find anything...

CamaroScotty · 01-27-2010, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 06MonteSS

the diablosport predator/trinity are proven not to leave any signs of activity...

as long as you restore the original backup stock tune back to the vehicle before you bring it in for any service work, they can not tell a thing... they'll never know it was ever there...

has been tested by GM service guru's, and can't find anything...

Can you define GM service Guru?

turleylox · 01-27-2010, 09:53 PM

This might be a little off topic but I purchased one of these Diablo tuners but I haven't installed it yet. I was waiting to get everything done at once. My question is, if I add Long tubes, Exhaust & Cold Air Intake will the Diablo be able to tune this the way I want it? Or will I have to still take it somewhere and have it profesionally tuned by someone that knows what their doing. Unlike me lol.

*The_Blur* · 01-27-2010, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroScotty

Can you define GM service Guru?

Can you take in one of these cars and have your service guys check on this? We're all interested.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 01-27-2010, 09:56 PM

Yes, they can all be detected. There is a change-code in the computer that no hand-held tuner or even the big guys have access to. If you modify anything, that change code will raise a flag.

I'll work on finding the thread on this. There was a big controversy over it.

CamaroScotty · 01-27-2010, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Blur

Can you take in one of these cars and have your service guys check on this? We're all interested.

Don't fear the service guys....fear the cable they run from the PC to the Camaro, which takes information and gives it to GM via the internet. Direct communication, if you will.

If our service techs are Guru's, I don't fear them at all. HEck, they by me lunch from time to time

01-26-2010, 04:47 PM	#1
Mustang Killa Drives: Black 2SS Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: az Posts: 853	Is there 100% confirmation that previous tunes can be detected? I've been reading all of these tune posts and it seems like someone gives a confident answer someone else rebutles it..so once the factory tune is restored do we know 100% yet whether or not It can be detected and to what extent? Would it look the same as if I were to clear the computer from a trouble code?? I also see a few tuners online saying theirs restore untraceable, is this confirmed or is it only speculated? I'm about to pull the trigger on some longtubes and intake just getting jittery on it because of the tune..I can always throw stock bolt ons back on. Thanks ahead of time for the input

01-26-2010, 06:19 PM	#2
tjbusa Serious Sleeper Drives: 2010 CGM 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Lexington,SC Posts: 3,129	As much as I've read into the matter, the answer is no, as long as your able to restore your stock tune, you should be fine. I will either get a custom dyno tune or a diablo sport tune with the aid of TED or Lew. I am just waiting on my Camaro to let me know its ready. A check engine light (CEL) is what I'm waiting on. 400 miles on my long tubes and no problem. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58363 Thousands have already tuned theirs, go with a reputable tuner and have the ability to put the stock tune back if the need arises. I will more than likely go with a Diablo sport due to this fact and a boatload of hand helds out there give you a 93 octane tune but can't dial in extra hp for your long tubes. __________________ ************************************* Drive-by Fact of Life: After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar reads... W T F *************************************

01-27-2010, 09:56 PM	#13
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,876 View My Garage	Yes, they can all be detected. There is a change-code in the computer that no hand-held tuner or even the big guys have access to. If you modify anything, that change code will raise a flag. I'll work on finding the thread on this. There was a big controversy over it. __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

01-26-2010, 06:28 PM	#3
BackinBlackSS/RS Go Blue!!!!! Drives: 2012 Cruze LT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 23,290	I say the answer is no. Until someone personally has detected the tune, or have seen it in person done, I would say the question of can it or can't it is still up in the air. My guess is even if you return to stock it probably can be detected but it would not be easy to determine by your average gm tech. I mean they can't even figure out how to update my PDIM, so their answer is to order a new one.

01-26-2010, 06:30 PM	#4
Mustang Killa Drives: Black 2SS Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: az Posts: 853	I am 90% goin with custom tune, i had bad experience with a superchips handhelp with my LS1 ta.

01-27-2010, 09:38 PM	#9
06MonteSS Account Suspended Drives: 2006 Monte Carlo SS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: CT Posts: 226	the diablosport predator/trinity are proven not to leave any signs of activity... as long as you restore the original backup stock tune back to the vehicle before you bring it in for any service work, they can not tell a thing... they'll never know it was ever there... has been tested by GM service guru's, and can't find anything...

01-27-2010, 09:53 PM	#11
turleylox Drives: 2010 Chevy Camaro Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Smiths Grove, KY Posts: 207 View My Garage	This might be a little off topic but I purchased one of these Diablo tuners but I haven't installed it yet. I was waiting to get everything done at once. My question is, if I add Long tubes, Exhaust & Cold Air Intake will the Diablo be able to tune this the way I want it? Or will I have to still take it somewhere and have it profesionally tuned by someone that knows what their doing. Unlike me lol.