Chevrolet: Stock 2012 ZL1 Runs 11.93 Quarter Mile (Video)

[HDRDTD]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

4120 X .49 = 2018.8 lb.

3820 X .46 = 1757.2 lb.

2018.8 - 1757.2 = 261.6 lb.

Ok, now I get it.

With the Mustangs weight and front/rear ratio, it works out that the Mustang's rear weight = 1757lbs

With the Camaro's weight and front/rear ratio, the Camaro's rear weight = 2018lbs, or 261lbs more rear weight than the Mustang.

So, the Mustang may have more HP, but less rear weight for traction vs. The Camaro's lesser HP, but it has the advantage when it comes to traction because it has more weight over the rear tires.

[LOWDOWN]

...which, all the 1/4-mile experts will confirm, certainly helps the car with more weight over the driving wheels...

Basic Physics...and superior engineering...which also helps 'splain these "unbelievable" 60' times, relative to "others".

[Deki]

The only thing that sticks out in my mind is that a 580hp car doesn't benefit at all from DRs? Really?

[LOWDOWN]

Originally Posted by Deki

The only thing that sticks out in my mind is that a 580hp car doesn't benefit at all from DRs? Really?

And you're quoting who, exactly?

[HPT BANDIT]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

And you're quoting who, exactly?

You must have missed the repeated posts about DR only picked a .1 over the stock tires.

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

It did run in the 11.9s on stock GYs and DRs that Friday.

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

And you're quoting who, exactly?

I believe this is what he may have been referencing.

He also said that with stock HP from the ZL1 you would need a really good driver to get much difference from DRs or the stock GY's that come on it.

[LOWDOWN]

The more power, the more gain...but on a well-prepped surface with lots of bite, the differential would be less...

In the ZL1's case, PTM 5 has been optimized to the factory GYs. As was stated.

[tooslow]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

The more power, the more gain...but on a well-prepped surface with lots of bite, the differential would be less...

In the ZL1's case, PTM 5 has been optimized to the factory GYs. As was stated.

But if the fastest runs were made with PTM disabled, it wouldn't matter. Maybe I misread/misheard, but I'm pretty sure all the traction aides were not enabled.

[LOWDOWN]

It should become clear that the ZL1 package, with Gen-2 MRC, is a very well-balanced car, especially on its OEM tires.

Optimized for more than ONE function.

This, folks, is true engineering.

This, folks, is called "sweating the details".

This, folks, all things considered, is why the ZL1 moniker FITS!

[LOWDOWN]

Originally Posted by tooslow

But if the fastest runs were made with PTM disabled, it wouldn't matter. Maybe I misread/misheard, but I'm pretty sure all the traction aides were not enabled.

Again, "quotes" required...

@ 0:26 through 0:30, Roma talks about PTM, and NOT about "disabling" it...

[The IOM Ninja]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

It should become clear that the ZL1 package, with Gen-2 MRC, is a very well-balanced car, especially on its OEM tires.

Optimized for more than ONE function.

This, folks, is true engineering.

This, folks, is called "sweating the details".

This, folks, all things considered, is why the ZL1 moniker FITS!

It's 3rd Gen Magnetic Ride Control not 2nd Just saying.......

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by vertcobra99

You do realize that not even the ZR1 with wider tires, more power, similar magnetic suspension and 900 lbs weight advantage has not even run a 1.69 60 foot time on stock tires right? I don't understand how anyone can even think this 60 foot time was accomplished on the stock good years. Anyone who has been drag racing for a long time would realize this. I mean look at the fast list for the ZR1 on drag times I posted below.

So your saying that the ZL1 with all of the disadvantages it has compared to the ZR1 is capable of a better 60 foot time? Some of those times on drag times are even with drag radials. Do you know how rediculous that claim is?

http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet--...ag-Racing.html

http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-C...lip-19625.html

stock tires. 1.70 how is it not possible to get 1 hundredth of a second? That's just the first one I clicked on.

I'm sorry, it's possible. I personally have done a 1.92 on street tires with a car that maybe had 357 horses at the flywheel. Drag times calculated that from my ET and MPH for a 98 z28 with mods on street rubber. why is it not possible for a car that has over 200 more horses to pull a hell of a lot better 60 ft time? I'm surmising that some of those passes the owners didn't even let air out of the tire.

someone that knows the car with good conditions and track prep will drive the car faster then reported et by the manufacturer and most rag times.

[Deki]

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-C...lip-19625.html

stock tires. 1.70 how is it not possible to get 1 hundredth of a second? That's just the first one I clicked on.

I'm sorry, it's possible. I personally have done a 1.92 on street tires with a car that maybe had 357 horses at the flywheel. Drag times calculated that from my ET and MPH for a 98 z28 with mods on street rubber. why is it not possible for a car that has over 200 more horses to pull a hell of a lot better 60 ft time? I'm surmising that some of those passes the owners didn't even let air out of the tire.

someone that knows the car with good conditions and track prep will drive the car faster then reported et by the manufacturer and most rag times.

Well, you're comparing a car that's running a 335 rear, weighs 800 lbs less, and has more power. Apples and oranges. In a ZR1, I can see it happening. A little tougher to see that happening with the ZL1.

[HPT BANDIT]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Again, "quotes" required...

@ 0:26 through 0:30, Roma talks about PTM, and NOT about "disabling" it...

He's quoting this review of the car



You can fast forward to the 2.05.
I'm sure this post will get deleted because it contradicts the Fuhrer.