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Old 02-25-2022, 07:32 PM   #15
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the hydraulics are damped to control the release of the pedal and takes getting used to. the restrictor can be removed.
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Old 02-25-2022, 09:04 PM   #16
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All my previous sports cars have been
Manuals, except the Supra, I’ve had Z28
C5 ZO6, 300ZX, etc…. But this clutch
On this ZL1 is on/off not progressive
I’m assuming the flywheel is lightweight,
Like the c5 zo6,and contributed to its
“Finicky “ feel, and it seems the low
Idle (600 rpm) also contributes, is this
Clutch/flywheel setup somewhat different
From the past GM vehicles I’ve mentioned?
My friend took delivery of a '22 ZL1 and I noticed the exact same thing. Very high engagement. I am no stranger to manuals (GM and otherwise) but I didn't care for it. I am sure after a while you could get used to it but it was strange.

On a side note, the nicest shifting (clutch engagement also) car I have driven in a while was a GT350. Yes I know they are all tremecs . . .
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Old 02-25-2022, 09:56 PM   #17
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And yes, coming from several manual cars the A10 is...FANTASTIC!!!
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Old 02-25-2022, 11:22 PM   #18
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lol, I've stalled it once in the 300-ish miles that I've driven it so far. For me I am trying my best not to make it sound like I'm leaving after a bank job, but it's too difficult to give it just enough gas to get going. I may just say to hell with it and take off like Mario Andretti at every stoplight.
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Old 02-26-2022, 06:02 AM   #19
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lol, I've stalled it once in the 300-ish miles that I've driven it so far. For me I am trying my best not to make it sound like I'm leaving after a bank job, but it's too difficult to give it just enough gas to get going. I may just say to hell with it and take off like Mario Andretti at every stoplight.
It has to be a result of the taller gearing in the ZL1 because the SS is a bit easier to manage. Does the ZL1 have a twin disc clutch vs. a single in the SS?
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Old 02-26-2022, 07:23 AM   #20
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It has to be a result of the taller gearing in the ZL1 because the SS is a bit easier to manage. Does the ZL1 have a twin disc clutch vs. a single in the SS?
Ah yes! I’d like to know if the actual clutch assembly
Is either a smaller diameter flywheel or a lighter
Flywheel, or if the clutch plate/or plates are different
From the SS…..has anyone actually had there
Hands on this assembly????PS to handle 650
Lbs of torque, it has to be different!
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Old 02-26-2022, 10:08 AM   #21
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Does the ZL1 have a twin disc clutch vs. a single in the SS?
FYI - the SS clutch is twin disc.
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Old 02-26-2022, 12:31 PM   #22
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Both the Zl1 and SS have a twin disk and if this is your first twin disk then I bet this is what’s causing your issues. When I first got my car I thought it was weird that it took me a whole entire week to finally be able to take off from a stop light/sign perfectly smooth until I learned twin disks can be a little tricky to operate. I did not stall the car, it was just tough to get the initial take off (not launch just normal driving take offs) perfectly smooth for about a week. After about a week I did not even have to think about it. Just keep practicing!
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Old 02-26-2022, 01:10 PM   #23
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Bottom line: A manual is just more fun. I tried to order one, but the dealer talked me out of it by saying that resale would suck badly. Of course with my mods, resale will suck anyway.
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Old 02-26-2022, 01:49 PM   #24
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I think the M6 resale will be better. Simple fact is there are not that many manual vehicles being made today, specifically manual sports cars. Supply and demand will eventully make the M6 more desirable/higher value. No question though about the M6 ZL1 taking some time to become acclimated to.
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Old 02-26-2022, 01:57 PM   #25
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It has to be a result of the taller gearing in the ZL1 because the SS is a bit easier to manage. Does the ZL1 have a twin disc clutch vs. a single in the SS?

I assume that the M6 unit would be the same in the SS as in the ZL1 as GM generally likes to share parts as a means of cost control. I may try to disable traction control as someone else has previously mentioned. Although when I experience it bogging down, it's not from too much gas, but from not enough gas. If you knew me, the last thing you'd think that I'd be associated with is "not enough gas".
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Old 02-26-2022, 07:02 PM   #26
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lol, I've stalled it once in the 300-ish miles that I've driven it so far. For me I am trying my best not to make it sound like I'm leaving after a bank job, but it's too difficult to give it just enough gas to get going. I may just say to hell with it and take off like Mario Andretti at every stoplight.
Only way to do it and not have it cut throttle here and there.

Just tell em “race car shit” lol


Also, not directed to my quoted post, but the difficulty in taking off is programmed babysitting and not mechanical. When on factory tune sometimes i could hit the gas pedal 3x straight to feather it and it wouldn’t even register. It does not allow finesse because it doesn’t want you to stall…very overprotective. Really kinda slowly sucking the fun out of the last of the manuals
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Old 02-26-2022, 07:05 PM   #27
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I bought a M6 ZLE simply because I liked the color. I've already paid it off, and as soon as the title gets here (as soon as next week), its going up for sale so I can buy a 19+ A10 ZLE instead. I've had it for like a month lol.
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Old 02-26-2022, 07:06 PM   #28
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Bottom line: A manual is just more fun. I tried to order one, but the dealer talked me out of it by saying that resale would suck badly. Of course with my mods, resale will suck anyway.
I would think the opposite. I would think the manuals will become more valuable but to each is own. For me while I’m healthy and both of my legs and arms work well I’ll always have a manual. I wouldn’t want to drive one to work so it always has its place. If your 1/4 mile racing and doing light to light runs trying to race I think this isn’t the right car for that purpose anyway. Just my 2 cents.
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