Trunk size

[lalometalik]

no room for junk in the trunk
sorry ladies

[zebra]

Originally Posted by lalometalik

no room for junk in the trunk
sorry ladies

wouldn't that be a seating issue?

[Bart]

Getting back on topic a bit, I do have to say this trunk opening is a bit on the sad side of things. Yes, I love the style and how the rear fenders look, but lets not forget what killed the 4th gen - livability. People have to be able to "use" this car. People going to the store, getting groceries, a trip to the hardware store, etc. I do fear that some of those "new" people they are trying to attract are going to see this opening for the first time at the dealership and reconsider. I hope that's not the case, I really do.

Enthusiasts won't care. But enthusiasts alone won't keep this car alive.

[swifttal]

Originally Posted by Bart

Getting back on topic a bit, I do have to say this trunk opening is a bit on the sad side of things. Yes, I love the style and how the rear fenders look, but lets not forget what killed the 4th gen - livability. People have to be able to "use" this car. People going to the store, getting groceries, a trip to the hardware store, etc. I do fear that some of those "new" people they are trying to attract are going to see this opening for the first time at the dealership and reconsider. I hope that's not the case, I really do.

Enthusiasts won't care. But enthusiasts alone won't keep this car alive.

Whatever, they can buy a Malibu then... as long as it's GM baby!!!

[Supermans]

Originally Posted by fldrummer

That depends on how your gear is packed and how much of it you have. I managed to persuade the workers at the Miami auto show to open and measure the trunk opening for me (this was the red RS they had there). The results were: 34" wide (In the widest part--the back)/15.5" deep. It will be a tight squeeze for my hardware bag, but after measuring, I think I can get that bag (which is really a large golf bag) through that; getting it back out might be more challenging. If I have to, I'll take a few stands out or use 2 smaller bags to get it in there and I'll just have the bass drum ride shotgun like I do with my G35. It will suck no matter what, but I'm used to that already; LOL.

I happened to be at the Miami auto show at that moment. I remember seeing all of them huddled over the trunk measuring it. lol.. Small world.. A golf bag could fit in the hole, but would be very hard to get the angle to push it in without bending the bag..I don't see how you could or would want to try to get a golf bag in full of clubs thru the backs small opening if it is easier to bring them in thru the side passenger door with the seats down..

[Bart]

Originally Posted by swifttal

Whatever, they can buy a Malibu then... as long as it's GM baby!!!

With respect, that's kind of my point! How many potential 4th gen buyers decided the car was too impractical after seeing it and taking it for a test drive and bought a sunfire, impala, grand prix, or <insert GM car here>. Yes, I want GM to survive and flourish, but I want this car to survive in that lineup as well.

Chevy already has a halo car in the vette. I'm not sure a limited sales production camaro can survive in this day and age based on the traffic it brings to a dealer. It has to sell in large numbers.


Or maybe I'm just nervous as the production date gets closer!!!!

[gladiatoro]

Originally Posted by rolnslo

Less than 10% (26 million) of the US population plays golf (at all) and about 2% (4.6 million) play at least 25 times per year. How many of those people are going to be in the typical buyer demographic for the Camaro?

Why in the hell should GM compromise on the Camaro design just so 2% of the public can easily get their clubs into the trunk without having to do anything but set the bag in the trunk?

Form first, function second. Period. If you want function first, go buy something boring (Like a Buick, since that was what Tiger Woods was pitching for GM). I want form first this time and will be buying a Camaro.

You are correct sir

[Supermans]

Originally Posted by Bart

With respect, that's kind of my point! How many potential 4th gen buyers decided the car was too impractical after seeing it and taking it for a test drive and bought a sunfire, impala, grand prix, or <insert GM car here>. Yes, I want GM to survive and flourish, but I want this car to survive in that lineup as well.

Chevy already has a halo car in the vette. I'm not sure a limited sales production camaro can survive in this day and age based on the traffic it brings to a dealer. It has to sell in large numbers.


Or maybe I'm just nervous as the production date gets closer!!!!

There aren't that many "cool" cars on the road today that scream out Muscle besides the Mustang and now newer Challenger.. Vette's and Viper's are very nice, however they are not affordable while the Camaro definitely is..

[swifttal]

Originally Posted by Bart

With respect, that's kind of my point! How many potential 4th gen buyers decided the car was too impractical after seeing it and taking it for a test drive and bought a sunfire, impala, grand prix, or <insert GM car here>. Yes, I want GM to survive and flourish, but I want this car to survive in that lineup as well.

Chevy already has a halo car in the vette. I'm not sure a limited sales production camaro can survive in this day and age based on the traffic it brings to a dealer. It has to sell in large numbers.


Or maybe I'm just nervous as the production date gets closer!!!!

If they have any emotional bones on their body, their right foot will justify all reasoning to them. How many husbands and boyfriends get forced into looking for a practical car, only to walk out of the showroom with something that puts a smile on their face instead? Those who want this car will justify it too themselves. I'm a golfer, and I don't see any problems this car will present with getting 2 people and their clubs and carts to the course in comfort. So what you might have to fold down the rear seats? In my opinion that was foresight of practicality on GM's part... I would've been just as happy laying the clubs in the back seat.

[Camaro_Corvette]

Originally Posted by Bart

Getting back on topic a bit, I do have to say this trunk opening is a bit on the sad side of things. Yes, I love the style and how the rear fenders look, but lets not forget what killed the 4th gen - livability. People have to be able to "use" this car. People going to the store, getting groceries, a trip to the hardware store, etc. I do fear that some of those "new" people they are trying to attract are going to see this opening for the first time at the dealership and reconsider. I hope that's not the case, I really do.

Enthusiasts won't care. But enthusiasts alone won't keep this car alive.

I can't say that the thought never entered my mind, I thought it was a pretty small opening.

Originally Posted by swifttal

Whatever, they can buy a Malibu then... as long as it's GM baby!!!

GAH, this car needs to sell. The malibu is already selling a lot, but it can't help GM alone, it needs a really fast counterpart.

[Grape Ape]

Originally Posted by interrex

So if you try to fold down the rear seat to put your clubs in the rear, are you not likely after time to scratch the paint on the door sill. Or even wear the rear seats or side posts out from the swinging of the bag in and out from the back. On the GTO it would take a half an hour to put clubs in the back. The electric seat was soooooo sloooooow to move forward out of the way. Then to move it back, very bad design again by the GM team.

The camaro has the gas tank under the floor (where it belongs) so you can fold the seat down and use the extra space to make it easier to stuff stuff in thru the trunk opening.

[blckWS6TA]

Personally, I will miss the hatch, but i will rarely use the back seats, so I will keep the sticks back there. Thats what I do in the TA anyways.

[BeermanSS]

Originally Posted by gladiatoro

You are correct sir

Yep and that thinking will have the 5th gen following in the footsteps of the 4th. Like somebody said above, enthusiasts alone will not make this car succeed.

[swifttal]

4th gen didn't succeed because it was ugly. If anyone thinks you can do a better job at designing the fifth gen, take it up with GM. There is plenty of storage room for this car

What are your REAL complaints. You can't go to home depot and bring home lumber? GM designed the fold down seat to accommodate for plenty of luggage/whatever room, are you guys really serious about this?... I don't get it