Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
Phastek Performance
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > Engine | Drivetrain | Powertrain Technical Discussions > Camaro V6 LLT Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-29-2012, 07:05 PM   #71
bigted83
They call me captain slow
 
bigted83's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 camaro lt
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Illinois
Posts: 1,241
Are the hi flow cats necessary? Where do u get them
bigted83 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2012, 08:23 PM   #72
rtcat600man
having FUN now 13.66@101
 
rtcat600man's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2LT IOM
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Clarkston, Michigan
Posts: 9,230
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigted83 View Post
Are the hi flow cats necessary? Where do u get them
I believe SOLO makes a set.


http://solo-performance.com/pe-camar...rters-std-auto



BBK, sells HFC's with thier LT headers.

Stock cats do not work with LT Headers.
__________________
rtcat600man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2012, 09:44 PM   #73
BSR-1

 
BSR-1's Avatar
 
Drives: 17 ZL1 M6 Black
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Capo Beach, Ca
Posts: 1,411
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigted83 View Post
Are the hi flow cats necessary? Where do u get them
Not necessary.
__________________
BSR-1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2012, 09:51 PM   #74
OOLIE

 
OOLIE's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 LS
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: FL
Posts: 1,643
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigted83 View Post
Are the hi flow cats necessary? Where do u get them
Depends on emissions but not necessary technically.
__________________
OOLIE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2012, 06:33 AM   #75
bigted83
They call me captain slow
 
bigted83's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 camaro lt
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Illinois
Posts: 1,241
Im definitely getting long tube headers,but most likely bbk as they come with the high flow cats. Im liking the horsepower increase and all.I know id have to get the trifecta tune.
bigted83 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2012, 11:34 PM   #76
Chang
 
Chang's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro V6 LLT Rally Yellow
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Posts: 90
Could you tell me more detail about the x-pipe welding? The x-pipe is 2.5" and the stock V6 exhuast pipes are 2.25", did you use any adaptor? Thanks!
__________________
Current mods: Flowmaster AMT Axle-back | RX Catch Can | RX Breather | Vararam DZ-6 Intake | Vmax CNC Ported Throttle Body | RX Ported Intake Manifold | Mace Plenum Spacer | Mace 25mm Insulator | BMR Level 3 Handling Kit | BBK Stainless LT header w/ HFC | Magnaflow Res. X-Pipe |
On the way: Trifecta Tune
Future mods: DONE!
Chang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2012, 02:22 AM   #77
kjkjr27
COTW 9/16/13
 
kjkjr27's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 2LT/RS Camaro IOM
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Syracuse
Posts: 10,089
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chang View Post
Could you tell me more detail about the x-pipe welding? The x-pipe is 2.5" and the stock V6 exhuast pipes are 2.25", did you use any adaptor? Thanks!
One way around this is you could get a SS midpipe from a manual. It is 2.5.
__________________
kjkjr27 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2012, 04:22 AM   #78
NOVAK
 
NOVAK's Avatar
 
Drives: 2015 ZL1
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: California the Republic
Posts: 521
Nice write up. You should get the non resonated X, you're missing out!

Quote:
Originally Posted by rtcat600man View Post
AIR TOOLS…..AIR TOOLS…..AIR TOOLS……Never again would I do this project without AIR TOOLS.

Also, If you plan to install OBX headers with MRT's I HIGHLY recommend getting the Mangaflow Resonated X Pipe (part no. 11386). This will help tone down the bad sounds you will experience at the 2500 to 3500 rpm range.

Ok that said. Let’s get into what it will take to install the OBX Headers. Here are some of my tips and experiences. I bought new bolts and new stock gaskets from the dealer. Is it required? NO. But I was not taking on any chances on any leaks because I re-used the old bolts or used stock gaskets. From what everything I read, you cannot beat the GM stock gaskets so I was not going to use the ones supplied with the headers.

First, find a friend who is a master mechanic and is willing to give up his day to help you out. THANK - YOU JOE for all your help. Without you I would still be out there busting a few more knuckles.

Second for those who wondered about the weight, the OBX headers will save you 8 lbs per side, or 16 lbs off the front end. The Stock set-up weighed in at 20 lbs, the OBX’s weigh only 12 lbs. per side.

Ok on to the exchange.

I put my Camaro in the air on 4 jack stands. (The tires are off because I am rotating the tires at this time too).

Disconnect the battery wire at its post in the engine bay.

Remove the engine cover and remove the oil dipstick and tube.

Loosen the exhaust clamps holding the cats to the exhaust system.

Remove the cross member, this will allow the exhaust to drop and slide the manifolds and cats from each other.

Disconnect the alternator to create the much needed room for your arms to work the manifold bolts loose.

Unplug the O2 sensors, all four of them. If you haven’t bought the front extenders you should do so. You will need the trapezoid style 12” extensions is plenty? Will it work without them? Probably, maybe, but it is a stretch and I thought why make it that tight when I can just purchase the 12” extenders.

Start removing the 7 bolts per side that hold the manifolds in place. By the way these bolts are ―” not the 13mm I keep reading about from other installs. This is where air tools sure would be handy. There just is not much room for you to reach in there and get the bolts out. Many are more reachable from below than above. Again thank – you JOE for taking the time to help get all those bolts out.

Once you have the manifolds down and out along with the cats, you can now take and remove the O2 sensors from the cats and pipes.

We then reinstalled the O2 sensors into the new set-up and tighten these down.

Install the new gaskets and manifolds. New 14 bolts, tightening all of these to 18ft. lbs. We did not install the starter shield on the driver’s side. There was not enough room to allow this shield to fit. The shield was more there for protection from the heat that the catalytic convertor generated than what the long tubes will create.

When installing the OBX system to the stock pipe you will be using the stock clamp at that section. The stock clamps have a clip that locks in on a small protruding piece. On the passenger side this piece is on the old cats and of no issue. However, on the driver’s side this little piece is still there and creates and issue for the clamp, to slide back far enough to allow the set-up to be slipped together. I recommend grinding this little piece off.

Connect the (4) O2 sensors. There is enough wiring for the rears if you clip the zip tie and release the wiring harness to allow the last inch of wire that you need to complete this section.

Go ahead and install the alternator, the dip stick tube and battery cable.

Total time around 9 hours. We were in no hurry, took time out for a lunch break. Is it worth it, most defiantly. When I know I can do the install and save the labor charge, I would tackle this job for sure.

Was it easy, I cannot tell a lie, it truly was a PITA. Only because those bolts are not that easy to get to during removal or install.

Hope this helps out a little more.

Thank – you for taking time to read this and if you should have any questions feel free to contact me.







Sorry it took a couple days, but here are the videos.


The first one is shortly after completing the install, taken inside my garage while still on the jack stands. The smoke is because it was maybe 25 degrees now in my garage after opening the door.





This second one is the next day, cold start up from inside the Camaro with the windows up




This third one is while out testing the pipes and sound.




This last one was made at the same location I did one last year when creating the sound clip for my MRT's.







Attachment 325114
Attachment 325116
Attachment 325117
Attachment 325118
Attachment 325119
Attachment 325120
Attachment 325121
Attachment 325122
Attachment 325123
Attachment 325126
Attachment 325127
Attachment 325128
Attachment 325129



Final wrap up for now. I love the headers. I do not like the rasp and sound at 2500 - 3500 rpm's. There was to much noise and unwanted sound. However, talking with some of our resident experts, (you guys know who you are too, because I send you at least one PM and THANK - YOU for all your help), I have just completed my order for the Magnaflow Resonated X pipe. I have a friend of a friend who will weld this in place. I will know in a couple weeks if this helps me out to the point I think it will.

The X pipe is installed and it sure does make a HUGE difference. Toned down the annoying portion and deepened the overall sound to make my system sound GREAT.



Attachment 325115
Attachment 327592
Attachment 327593
Attachment 327594
Attachment 327595
NOVAK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2012, 05:47 AM   #79
rtcat600man
having FUN now 13.66@101
 
rtcat600man's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2LT IOM
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Clarkston, Michigan
Posts: 9,230
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chang View Post
Could you tell me more detail about the x-pipe welding? The x-pipe is 2.5" and the stock V6 exhuast pipes are 2.25", did you use any adaptor? Thanks!
Lots of weld. No adapter. The shop shortened the flanges to get the X pipe to fit and welded everything.

Quote:
Originally Posted by kjkjr27 View Post
One way around this is you could get a SS midpipe from a manual. It is 2.5.
Good option if you can find one. But then the MRT's won't fit and you have to deal with that issue. But this is an option many have gone with to have a larger mid pipe.

Quote:
Originally Posted by NOVAK View Post
Nice write up. You should get the non resonated X, you're missing out!

Missing out on what.....

What is the part number of this non resonated X pipe.......
__________________
rtcat600man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2012, 06:03 AM   #80
scrming
Red Brick of Vengeance!
 
scrming's Avatar
 
Drives: 12 Second Brick
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: at my pulpit
Posts: 7,745
Wow a regular, non-resonated X would have been worse then the stock H.
scrming is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2013, 01:17 PM   #81
tabshire95
Texas Raised
 
tabshire95's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 RS Grey 2LT Camaro
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Beaumont, Texas
Posts: 49
I have a MBRP catback exhaust for my 2012 V6 RS, what would be a good choice in headers cause i honestly have no idea. And would I need anything else to reduce the complaints on noise or anything like that?
tabshire95 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2013, 04:42 PM   #82
LoneStar


 
LoneStar's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 IOM Camaro
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Texas
Posts: 3,446
Thanks for the write up! It was definitely useful in my header install this week, especially moving the alternator out of the way!!!
__________________
LoneStar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2013, 09:19 PM   #83
rtcat600man
having FUN now 13.66@101
 
rtcat600man's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2LT IOM
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Clarkston, Michigan
Posts: 9,230
Quote:
Originally Posted by LoneStarCamaro View Post
Thanks for the write up! It was definitely useful in my header install this week, especially moving the alternator out of the way!!!
You're welcome, glad to hear it helped you out.
__________________
rtcat600man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-2014, 10:40 PM   #84
ccalderon210
 
ccalderon210's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 Victory Red Ls
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: United States
Posts: 89
so o2 extenders are required for front and back?
ccalderon210 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
OK...I'm starting a better V6 exhaust examples thread!! KMPrenger Camaro V6 LLT Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons 611 07-01-2020 08:49 AM
V6 Camaro Performance Upgrades rtcat600man Camaro V6 LLT Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons 387 09-19-2019 06:53 PM
My review on OBX headers sfgiantsfan9 Camaro V8 LS3 / L99 Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons 37 01-13-2011 03:12 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:27 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.