2010 LS3 vs turbo RT challenger

[OneSlowV]

Those dogs move around good for there weight. The A5s run the best times and a stock SS isn't that fast. Most guys can't even trap over 105 mph it makes them easy pickings against a bolt on 5.7. And having a 07 charger srt8 before my SS i had no problems against the camaro.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by 2010Slowmaro

That is true. But most don't all in the driver. On the 5.7 RT, a turbo doesn't mean an easy win against a stock M6 SS. Those challengers are dogs.

And youlize a stock SS can run a high 12/low 13..... Most do not...... I am sorry, get real, a turbo R/T would murder a stock or even bolt-on SS. You are really underestimating, but i guess if it makes you feel better, more power to you lol......

[2010Slowmaro]

Originally Posted by Stew

And youlize a stock SS can run a high 12/low 13..... Most do not...... I am sorry, get real, a turbo R/T would murder a stock or even bolt-on SS. You are really underestimating, but i guess if it makes you feel better, more power to you lol......

So a turbo RT with MAYBE 450whp at best is going to murder a bolt on SS making similar power but with less weight? Tell me more...

[Stew]

Originally Posted by 2010Slowmaro

So a turbo RT with MAYBE 450whp at best is going to murder a bolt on SS making similar power but with less weight? Tell me more...

First, i have to ask, what is your definition of a bolt-on?

[2010Slowmaro]

Anything that doesn't go internal. It's THE definition of a bolt on. Longtubes, intake Manifold, TB, that stuff.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by 2010Slowmaro

Anything that doesn't go internal. It's THE definition of a bolt on. Longtubes, intake Manifold, TB, that stuff.

I think 450 wheel HP is a big optimistic for your average bolt-on SS and only 450 is a bit pessimistic for a turbocharged R/T would would most certainly be more than a turbo simply bolted on......

[2010Slowmaro]

Not 450. Just low-mid 400's. Remember the 250ish pound weight advantage.
I'm referring to a challenger RT with JUST a turbo kit. Which in reality makes about 450ish. We have no reason to assume its been modified past that point.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by 2010Slowmaro

Not 450. Just low-mid 400's. Remember the 250ish pound weight advantage.
I'm referring to a challenger RT with JUST a turbo kit. Which in reality makes about 450ish. We have no reason to assume its been modified past that point.

Many have weighed their R/ts at 3800-3900 pounds, in reality the SRTs are the 4100 pound cars with their heavier brakes, wheels, seats, etc and again even a basic turbo swapped involves not that bolting on a turbo, it will have a tune, it will have exhause, it will have some sort of cold air, it will have the bigger TB necessary for the turbo.........

[2010Slowmaro]

Originally Posted by Stew

Many have weighed their R/ts at 3800-3900 pounds, in reality the SRTs are the 4100 pound cars with their heavier brakes, wheels, seats, etc and again even a basic turbo swapped involves not that bolting on a turbo, it will have a tune, it will have exhause, it will have some sort of cold air, it will have the bigger TB necessary for the turbo.........

2013 Challenger RT curb weight is 4082 pounds.

All those things you named are included. Everything that comes with a turbo kit is everything you need to turbo your car. I'm not speculating, I'm saying what real turbo only RT's are putting down on a dyno. OP already said he beat it. It's not outside the realm of possibility is all I'm saying.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by 2010Slowmaro

2013 Challenger RT curb weight is 4082 pounds.

All those things you named are included. Everything that comes with a turbo kit is everything you need to turbo your car. I'm not speculating, I'm saying what real turbo only RT's are putting down on a dyno. OP already said he beat it. It's not outside the realm of possibility is all I'm saying.

Well, this is not really even a race, 400 feet? i beleive I even said earlier the turbo wouldn't really have been able to spool to max power. A real race, the turbo R/T WILL have a sizable advantage and you realize that 200 pounds is onlt .1-.2/10s in the 1/4 mile? It is NOT that large of a difference PERIOD and as i said PEOPLE HAVE ACTUALLY WEIGHED THEIR R/TS and they are weighing less than 4000 pounds..

[2010Slowmaro]

Originally Posted by Stew

Well, this is not really even a race, 400 feet? i beleive I even said earlier the turbo wouldn't really have been able to spool to max power. A real race, the turbo R/T WILL have a sizable advantage and you realize that 200 pounds is onlt .1-.2/10s in the 1/4 mile? It is NOT that large of a difference PERIOD and as i said PEOPLE HAVE ACTUALLY WEIGHED THEIR R/TS and they are weighing less than 4000 pounds..

Small turbo running low boost on a v8? Yeah it would've been spoiled.
No 400 feet is not a good race. There's also the possibility that OP is bad with distances. You're using a LOT of BIG words which isn't making your point any more valid lol. Of course the challenger had an advantage. Since when does having an advantage mean you win every time? Welcome to racing 101, take a seat and learn something.
And sure they do buddy, sure they do

[Stew]

Originally Posted by 2010Slowmaro

Not 450. Just low-mid 400's. Remember the 250ish pound weight advantage.
I'm referring to a challenger RT with JUST a turbo kit. Which in reality makes about 450ish. We have no reason to assume its been modified past that point.

http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/e...e/viewall.html

450 HP turbocharged my a$$ and this is the older hemi that made considerably less HP stock.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by 2010Slowmaro

Small turbo running low boost on a v8? Yeah it would've been spoiled.
No 400 feet is not a good race. There's also the possibility that OP is bad with distances. You're using a LOT of BIG words which isn't making your point any more valid lol. Of course the challenger had an advantage. Since when does having an advantage mean you win every time? Welcome to racing 101, take a seat and learn something.
And sure they do buddy, sure they do

See above......

[2010Slowmaro]

Originally Posted by Stew

http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/e...e/viewall.html

450 HP turbocharged my a$$ and this is the older hemi that made considerably less HP stock.

Running high boost on a custom setup. Not what I'm talking about.
Your average out of the box turbo kit for a 5.7 will run 6-8 psi and make mid 400's whp. It can be turned up for more, sure.